[3.5] CheeQu's CoC Ice Nova Assassin - Up to 7m Shaper DPS + Amazing Clearspeed [In-Depth Guide]

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esmolli написал:

This build is so fun. I'm crushing all maps with ease until... I get face raped by the boss on most t16 maps. Can anyone suggest gear upgrades that could help my situation? Thanks!

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esmolli написал:

This build is so fun. I'm crushing all maps with ease until... I get face raped by the boss on most t16 maps. Can anyone suggest gear upgrades that could help my situation? Thanks!

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skempf85 написал:

I think everybody is misunderstanding how shock works, especially for this build. You should definitely check out doncrown's explanation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voz1-GsDKkA

Basically you need a high % shock chance to have significant damage boost.

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Artur Cunha
Don, we can also guarantee a shock by crafting shock enemies when you focus for 4 seconds on the rings, its really good for minion builds or some other builds

OMGclueless
He briefly mentions at 5:24 that "All other sources of non-hit shock are 20% that does scale with shock effect," and this covers things like this. But maybe it's worth calling out specifically as another way to shock.

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grindst0ne написал:

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skempf85 написал:

I think everybody is misunderstanding how shock works, especially for this build. You should definitely check out doncrown's explanation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voz1-GsDKkA

Basically you need a high % shock chance to have significant damage boost.

The ring does guarantee a shock - there is no doubt about that. This is not exactly what is discussed in the video. See the video's comments section:

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Artur Cunha
Don, we can also guarantee a shock by crafting shock enemies when you focus for 4 seconds on the rings, its really good for minion builds or some other builds

OMGclueless
He briefly mentions at 5:24 that "All other sources of non-hit shock are 20% that does scale with shock effect," and this covers things like this. But maybe it's worth calling out specifically as another way to shock.

All the things mentioned in the video are straight from the wiki, by the way: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Shock

So, it's not the "chance" that matters, as the shock is guaranteed. Furthermore, the damage is a flat 20% damage increase that you can scale further with other sources of shock damage/effect manipulation. I agree that this is confusing. For the builds that use the "shock" ring, you'll most likely just have the flat 20% increase.

In the end, you cannot currently use the option in PoB for this version of shock, as it is a 20% increase, and not a 50% increase as you can achieve with lightning damage (aside of the fact that you cannot maintain focus with 100% uptime).

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dragnmith1 написал:

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grindst0ne написал:

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skempf85 написал:

I think everybody is misunderstanding how shock works, especially for this build. You should definitely check out doncrown's explanation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voz1-GsDKkA

Basically you need a high % shock chance to have significant damage boost.

The ring does guarantee a shock - there is no doubt about that. This is not exactly what is discussed in the video. See the video's comments section:

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Artur Cunha
Don, we can also guarantee a shock by crafting shock enemies when you focus for 4 seconds on the rings, its really good for minion builds or some other builds

OMGclueless
He briefly mentions at 5:24 that "All other sources of non-hit shock are 20% that does scale with shock effect," and this covers things like this. But maybe it's worth calling out specifically as another way to shock.

All the things mentioned in the video are straight from the wiki, by the way: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Shock

So, it's not the "chance" that matters, as the shock is guaranteed. Furthermore, the damage is a flat 20% damage increase that you can scale further with other sources of shock damage/effect manipulation. I agree that this is confusing. For the builds that use the "shock" ring, you'll most likely just have the flat 20% increase.

In the end, you cannot currently use the option in PoB for this version of shock, as it is a 20% increase, and not a 50% increase as you can achieve with lightning damage (aside of the fact that you cannot maintain focus with 100% uptime).

correct me if im wrong but wasn't the idea of 4 secs shock while focused only used on the Bosses? which means we wouldnt' be running it at 100% of the time?

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Picklepickle0 написал:

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Picklepickle0 написал:

Got a new shield(got lucky on the rolls before giving up at 200alts) & two might of the meek with damage implicits

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I honestly don't know how much damage im doing, but effectively I average at

232698 on tooltip (during combat)
saw it peak at 259320
sitting at 106889 in hide out

The craft
Gain #% of cold damage as extra chaos damage, really pumped up the numbers.

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err just kinda knowing how pob works.

Normal damage: 404812
Shaper damage: 270546

i see other peoples pob going up to 387587 shaper 467921 normal bosses
(eh wow just noticed it was due to "is the enemy shocked")so if that's the case, you shouldn't spam vortex and rather spam shock? or just shock for bosses

Here's my pob with all new gear
https://pastebin.com/F5KbNX4c

quick view of new crafted gear:

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Did some computations.


Did some computations.


ice nova chest 405820 (without shock 270546)
ice nova cospri 124332 (without shock 82888)
frostbolt 179976 (without shock 119984)

crit chance 100%
hit chance: 100%
Attack speed 7.43

DPS = [(CHEST ICE NOVA AVG HIT * 2) + (COSPRI ICE NOVA AVG HIT) + (COSPRI FROSTBOLT AVG HIT / 2)] * (CRIT CHANCE * HIT CHANCE) * APS * HIT CHANCE

with shock 811640 + 152154 * 1 * 7.43 * 1 = 7160989.42
without shock 541092 + 101436 * 1 * 7.43 * 1 = 4773983.04

is my computation right?

hmmmm so I found this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voz1-GsDKkA
sooooooooooo i guess ima go recraft my ring. well that was quite some exalts to learn this T_T