[3.5] CheeQu's CoC Ice Nova Assassin - Up to 7m Shaper DPS + Amazing Clearspeed [In-Depth Guide]

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GeneralDurph написал:
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mrpetrov написал:
I’m in my phone, but a big question for me is which delivers more dps: 120% increased damage, HoI or aspect of the spider?
off the top of my head im unsure, but i believe hoi is vastly outperformed by aspect of the spider, and i dont intend on incorporating it into my final version of the build.


Ok, I've done a dps analysis in PoB comparing Aspect of the Spider, Herald of Ice and a straight 120% increased damage to proxy for rare crafted gloves. Given none of them change crit chance or attack speeds, you can compare them on a straight average hit basis - acknowledging however that HoI gets better with higher APS given it is a flat damage boost.

Average CoC Ice Nova hit vs Guardian/Shaper (absolute amount isn't so relevant, only the changes thereto) excluding any of the three buffs: 87.7k

1. Adding level 20 HoI: 91.9k (4.7% more)
2a. Single stack (1 second) of spider web: 92.1k (5.0% more)
2b. Two stacks (2 seconds) of spider web: 96.5k (10.0% more)
2c. Three stacks (3 seconds, max) of spider web: 100.9k (15.1% more)
3. 120% increased damage (proxy for high end crafted rare gloves): 109.0k (24.3% more)

So, at least from a dps perspective - which ignores the defensive benefits of spider - the rare gloves come out clearly on top, followed by spider, with HoI linger sadly last.
Последняя редакция: mrpetrov. Время: 5 янв. 2019 г., 18:21:02
Anyone have tips/suggestions for first timers doing uber elder with this build?
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Kezxile написал:
Anyone have tips/suggestions for first timers doing uber elder with this build?


Don't be greedy and don't rush. You have lots of dps but the temptation will still be to try and stay cycloning over them come hell or high water - don't.

Be ready to run or charge/whirl etc away as soon as you see a shaper ball coming toward you. Given cyclone locks you into an animation for a little while, you need every millisecond to manually dodge the balls when they come. Be patient but alert.
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mrpetrov написал:
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GeneralDurph написал:
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mrpetrov написал:
I’m in my phone, but a big question for me is which delivers more dps: 120% increased damage, HoI or aspect of the spider?
off the top of my head im unsure, but i believe hoi is vastly outperformed by aspect of the spider, and i dont intend on incorporating it into my final version of the build.


Ok, I've done a dps analysis in PoB comparing Aspect of the Spider, Herald of Ice and a straight 120% increased damage to proxy for rare crafted gloves. Given none of them change crit chance or attack speeds, you can compare them on a straight average hit basis - acknowledging however that HoI gets better with higher APS given it is a flat damage boost.

Average CoC Ice Nova hit vs Guardian/Shaper (absolute amount isn't so relevant, only the changes thereto) excluding any of the three buffs: 87.7k

1. Adding level 20 HoI: 91.9k (4.7% more)
2a. Single stack (1 second) of spider web: 92.1k (5.0% more)
2b. Two stacks (2 seconds) of spider web: 96.5k (10.0% more)
2c. Three stacks (3 seconds, max) of spider web: 100.9k (15.1% more)
3. 120% increased damage (proxy for high end crafted rare gloves): 109.0k (24.3% more)

So, at least from a dps perspective - which ignores the defensive benefits of spider - the rare gloves come out clearly on top, followed by spider, with HoI linger sadly last.

Good breakdown.

Looks like im going to be avoiding hoi and running blasp/enfeeble, warords mark ring (running the node that allows 2 curses), discipline (es goh watchers) and spider. Should be marvelous.
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mrpetrov написал:
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Kezxile написал:
Anyone have tips/suggestions for first timers doing uber elder with this build?


Don't be greedy and don't rush. You have lots of dps but the temptation will still be to try and stay cycloning over them come hell or high water - don't.

Be ready to run or charge/whirl etc away as soon as you see a shaper ball coming toward you. Given cyclone locks you into an animation for a little while, you need every millisecond to manually dodge the balls when they come. Be patient but alert.


Alright thank you, maybe I'll just not attack at all during the Balls as they are what kept killing me During cyclone because animation lock and being slower =[
Hey CheeQu and everybody else!

Still having a TON of fun with this build.
I finally did my first ever ELDER.. yellow T6 elder but still my first :P
Next goal is Shaper and Uber Elder.
Level92.. chilling, gathering money for amulet, CDR belt etc.

My first Elder kill with this build and all items/gems links etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGtL97h5UOY
Mathils actual cat
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GeneralDurph написал:
Good breakdown.

Looks like im going to be avoiding hoi and running blasp/enfeeble, warords mark ring (running the node that allows 2 curses), discipline (es goh watchers) and spider. Should be marvelous.


Thanks mate. Yeah the dual curse is tempting, but I've not quite been able to get my head around it yet.
Hi there team!
A quick question for veterans.
Any sugestions in coloring the Loreweave?? Do you manage to make a Vorici method?
Thanks in advance.
Hey so I solved the mana issues I was having. I have the top of the line gear, all slots perfect. But, i was still suffering mana issues. I got a jewel with 2 mana gained on melee hit and I'm not having mana issues anymore. Crafted a %6 life, global multi and mana on hit.
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exguerrero написал:
Hey so I solved the mana issues I was having. I have the top of the line gear, all slots perfect. But, i was still suffering mana issues. I got a jewel with 2 mana gained on melee hit and I'm not having mana issues anymore. Crafted a %6 life, global multi and mana on hit.


Is this true v single target, like uber? Don't quite understand how 2 mgoh can solve mana issues v single target like uber...?

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