[3.21] Aegis Incinerate Elementalist - Tank with over 10mil Shaper DPS!

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vendetta2003 написал:


I just didn't know if mana on hit was enough to replace inspiration for arcane surge. So we get 850k more dmg

The consumption should therefore be large enough so that arcane adept could be replaced. depending on whether there is something better.

So we could replace arcane adept and rapid infusion for something better.


oh ok, I see what you mean.

Using Arcane Surge support we will spend 238 mana every second.
Our current tree gives us 75 mana regen per second.

That means we would be running at a deficit of 238-75 = 163 mana every second.

The Shaper ring would give us 3 mana per hit of our spells, or 12.55*3=37.5 mana back per second.

The Shaper ring by itself would not be enough to sustain mana when using Arcane Surge Support instead of Inspiration as we would still be running at a deficit of 163-37.5= 125.5 mana per second.
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Chubbypuppy написал:
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AndyLovesHisBge написал:

Practice Caster:
20% increased Spell Damage
5% increased Cast Speed
35% chance to Avoid interruption from Stuns while Casting

I think of these 3 I like Practiced Caster the best. We need a little more stun protection and I think this node would get us to 85% (we get 50 from Unwavering Focus but we lost our other stun from the tree change in 3.16).


Hmm, I'm not sure what Practiced Caster actually does. It doesn't protect you from stuns, just interruptions from stuns... but that means you keep casting while stunned? I guess you can't move while stunned, not sure about defenses...


I think it simply means we keep casting Incinerate even if we are stunned which is the whole point of the mod I think. Interruptions to Incinerate (or any channeling) is bad because you have to start over at the lower damage levels before you can gain your max stages again.

oh oh.....

When we added the Thread of Hope jewel, we lost a ton of mana regeneration.

Can some one check to see if and how we are going to channel Incinerate with the Thread of Hope jewel?

My calcs say we can't but I may be doing something wrong.

Even when I look at Clay's pob, which does not use the Thread of Hope, it is a little better because he has less cast speed and more mana regen but we are still not maintaining Incinerate for very long even with that.


I feel like we lost something on the tree. Did the old channeling clusters that were removed lower our cost of channeling skills?
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AndyLovesHisBge написал:
oh oh.....

When we added the Thread of Hope jewel, we lost a ton of mana regeneration.

Can some one check to see if and how we are going to channel Incinerate with the Thread of Hope jewel?

My calcs say we can't but I may be doing something wrong.

Even when I look at Clay's pob, which does not use the Thread of Hope, it is a little better because he has less cast speed and more mana regen but we are still not maintaining Incinerate for very long even with that.


I feel like we lost something on the tree. Did the old channeling clusters that were removed lower our cost of channeling skills?

Yea, there was 1 that gave -3 flat mana cost to channeling skills, which is gone now (was just left of Pain Atunement)
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Claeysken написал:

Yea, there was 1 that gave -3 flat mana cost to channeling skills, which is gone now (was just left of Pain Atunement)


I was able to "fix" it but it was ugly :(

I hope some one who is better with the tree can figure this out better than I did.

To make us sustain mana, I had to give up the two points to Unnatural Instinct, the Explosive Pact cluster, and Cruel Prep.

I replace them with Righteous Decree, Mystic Bulmark and Prodigal Perfection.

This keeps us at level 96 but with less damage and life.

I guess I can't complain about losing damage and life because the build was broken as it we pathed it, I think. At least now it lives.

Is there any mod on a ring we could get to help us out here?
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AndyLovesHisBge написал:
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Claeysken написал:

Yea, there was 1 that gave -3 flat mana cost to channeling skills, which is gone now (was just left of Pain Atunement)


I was able to "fix" it but it was ugly :(

I hope some one who is better with the tree can figure this out better than I did.

To make us sustain mana, I had to give up the two points to Unnatural Instinct, the Explosive Pact cluster, and Cruel Prep.

I replace them with Righteous Decree, Mystic Bulmark and Prodigal Perfection.

This keeps us at level 96 but with less damage and life.

I guess I can't complain about losing damage and life because the build was broken as it we pathed it, I think. At least now it lives.

Is there any mod on a ring we could get to help us out here?

How about just crafting -mana cost with the crafting bench on 1 of the rings?
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Claeysken написал:

How about just crafting -mana cost with the crafting bench on 1 of the rings?


I saw on the trade site that we can get rings with -4 mana to channeling skill costs. Getting that one mod on one ring would save us ~5 tree points.

Is that the mod you are talking about on the crafting bench or is there something better?
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AndyLovesHisBge написал:
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Claeysken написал:

How about just crafting -mana cost with the crafting bench on 1 of the rings?


I saw on the trade site that we can get rings with -4 mana to channeling skill costs. Getting that one mod on one ring would save us ~5 tree points.

Is that the mod you are talking about on the crafting bench or is there something better?

That's the one!
None better I think.
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Claeysken написал:
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AndyLovesHisBge написал:
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Claeysken написал:

How about just crafting -mana cost with the crafting bench on 1 of the rings?


I saw on the trade site that we can get rings with -4 mana to channeling skill costs. Getting that one mod on one ring would save us ~5 tree points.

Is that the mod you are talking about on the crafting bench or is there something better?

That's the one!
None better I think.


when I look on poedb, it looks like we could get even more -mana (up to 7) but I don't see a single one that is for sale that is any better than -4 for some reason......

https://poedb.tw/us/Crafting_Bench


I think this is a mod we are going to need this league, unless some one sees something better on the tree. One mod on one ring to save 5 tree points is going to be hard to beat as you say.

It looks like we can get it on either ring or amulet.

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AndyLovesHisBge написал:
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Claeysken написал:
Wow you guys work fast! :o


Keep up or get left behind!! lol

no really, what do you think of the addition of the second medium cluster to fit in everything? I really like it.

You work so fast that I totally missed this xD

Second medium jewel is always nice ofc!
I don't know yet if I'll do it personally since the normal tree already gives so much that I want to get, but if you can spare the points, ofcourse do it!

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