POE 2 Complete PC Freeze while loading screen

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cursorTarget#1174 написал:

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Cainrith#2807 написал:

good-faith software used by a good-faith user having a problem where it uses a System API in a way it should not be used.

Oh really? Is that your concept? There is NO "good-faith software" and "good-faith user" in terms of security and stability. This is the reason why the user mode applications limited in their rights despite being "good" (or "trustful") and the using root or Administrator accounts are very bad practice and not recommended. Every single application is a potential bugfest which may lead to system crash and / or data corruption. We already passed these times with MS DOS, Windows 1/2/3/95/97/98(SE)/ME.

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Cainrith#2807 написал:

That topic was about detecting hardware damage. You said to people who were concerned about hardware damage to use chkdsk /f.

I corrected you:
1)chkdsk /f does not check for hardware damage.
2)chkdsk /r does check for some of the hardware damage.
3)If one has a SSD and not a HDD (most people in year 2024) then using that SSD's SMART software is better for checking hardware damage.

As I already told - you can't read. I'm not even talking about understanding, but you literally can't use your eyes. I suggested to use chkdsk /f ... read letter by letter... NOT TO FIX PHYSICAL DAMAGE, BUT TO FIX LOGICAL FS ERRORS like your Windows ALREADY does if dirty bit set on. It happens each time the system didn't finish CACHED WRITES and the data was lost, for example in sudden power loss or BSOD. You can fix dirty bit manually using fsutils. Nothing less, nothing more. It has nothing to hardware damage. If you UNSURE that the dirty bit was set properly or your Task Scheduler didn't complete boot-up tasks you can initiate the check manually by using chkdsk /f or autochk by setting the dirty bit on. In 99.99% cases your OS does it AUTOMATICALLY without your interaction, because it is STANDARD PROTOCOL from the Microsoft. If you have actual hardware damage, using chkdsk is bad idea in general, neither /f, nor /r

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Cainrith#2807 написал:

1)NVIDIA drivers cannot fix the bug on PCs with AMD GPU.
2)The bug NVIDIA refers to is not this problem. The problem they are fixing is another crash. The game is a crash-fest.

1) I know. This is the reason why I DID ask the AMD users to make some research and find information on the ATI / AMD forums. Oh wait, you can't read.
2) NVIDIA Representative (pidge2k) created new thread inherited from the user's one (xploid) with the question about PoE 2 crash, not Ubisoft's issues (m_w_h). I suppose you never used Reddit before.

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Cainrith#2807 написал:

Why are you so obsessed with Blizzard and not Square Enix?
When Ubisoft encountered a crashing problem like this they kept on communicating despite the fact that the problem was on Windows' side.

I don't give a crap about Blizzard and the other ones, but assumption that GGG paid me or other users (like IT guys above) to "deflect" this shit is complete and utter nonsense and delusional. The only thing that I can agree with you is that GGG should interact with their playerbase and help to fix the issue by interracting with the industry (Microsoft, driver / firmware writers, etc.). I already told why it is happened and I have some information that I cannot post here becuse it will break GGG rules 100%, but I can provide it privately. As nobody PMed me, so people don't care. Sure, babycrying on forums is the "our" way, indeed.

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mishkan426#4504 написал:

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cursorTarget#1174 написал:

ou deny the fact that NVIDIA acknowledged the problem and promised to address it in upcomming driver package.

One point, does NVIDIA write drivers for AMD? or I don't understand something

You're understanding correctly. And it is good question. So we have to expect some fix for AMD users from... AMD. Everyone who have access to the ring 0 level are potentially responsible for this issue.

Stop been fanboy GGG have to fix his game plenty users have nvidia and also have the same issues yes they released a new driver and still the issue persist so GGG have to fix his fcking problem and i am a long term player who knows that GGG usually dont give a fck about this issues and never even mention they going to work on this cuz they probably wont but this time isnt a fcking f2p shit they took money as a fcking early acess not as a fkcing alpha or beta a fkcing early access is a playable version of the game and having beteween 10 fps or 140 just because the gods will decide if u will do have it or not today cuz i was playing on max fps stable for days till suddendly ggg decided that my game should run 10 fps on login screen after loading the shaders.

Hello, I apologize in advance for my English ^^

After some research, I’ve managed to fix the issue by 90%. I hope this will help you.

When you launch the game, go to Task Manager → Details → right-click POE2 → Set affinity → and uncheck cores 0 and 1. This will allow you, in case of a crash, to use the Task Manager to close POE2 and avoid restarting your PC.

Next, go to Options → Background FPS and set it to 30, then check the box.

Finally, when you enter, whether it’s through a city portal or launching a map, press the Windows key just before entering the portal so that your processor doesn’t go to 100% capacity, thus preventing a crash.

Hopefully this year this issue gets fixed


Furthermore, I ask anyone who sees this message to please give a negative review for Path of Exile 2 on Steam.

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chrisEm119#1403 написал:

Furthermore, I ask anyone who sees this message to please give a negative review for Path of Exile 2 on Steam.

Done and done.

As a means of paying it forward, I implore anyone who reads this message to please give a negative review for Path of Exile 2 on Steam. Start the new year out right.

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cursorTarget#1174 написал:

Oh really? Is that your concept? There is NO "good-faith software" and "good-faith user" in terms of security and stability. This is the reason why the user mode applications limited in their rights despite being "good" (or "trustful") and the using root or Administrator accounts are very bad practice and not recommended. Every single application is a potential bugfest which may lead to system crash and / or data corruption. We already passed these times with MS DOS, Windows 1/2/3/95/97/98(SE)/ME.

Your lack of knowledge shows up here. Good-faith software and good-faith user are terms. "Good faith" or "good-faith" is a well-established legal term, widely used in various areas of law. It refers to the intention to act honestly, fairly, and without malice or intent to defraud others.

The opposite is "bad faith" or "bad-faith", which refer to actions or behavior that are dishonest, fraudulent, malicious, or intended to deceive or exploit others.

When creating systems you must balance functionality with security. For a program to do what PoE2 is doing, a user has to purposefully install, give permissions, and in some cases, run in administrator mode, which elevates its privileges further. An OS cannot stop such a vulnerability from existing, as the potential losses are lesser than potential gains. Why? Because normally such programs are installed from a trusted installer, and they are good-faith software. Restricting this behavior would mean the OS would override user intent, which is counterproductive for legitimate purposes.

Do you stop breathing because oxygen is damaging your cells? Should we remove our breathing functions so that we can avoid oxidative stress? Because this is what you are suggesting right now.

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cursorTarget#1174 написал:

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Cainrith#2807 написал:

That topic was about detecting hardware damage. You said to people who were concerned about hardware damage to use chkdsk /f.

I corrected you:
1)chkdsk /f does not check for hardware damage.
2)chkdsk /r does check for some of the hardware damage.
3)If one has a SSD and not a HDD (most people in year 2024) then using that SSD's SMART software is better for checking hardware damage.

As I already told - you can't read. I'm not even talking about understanding, but you literally can't use your eyes. I suggested to use chkdsk /f ... read letter by letter... NOT TO FIX PHYSICAL DAMAGE, BUT TO FIX LOGICAL FS ERRORS like your Windows ALREADY does if dirty bit set on. It happens each time the system didn't finish CACHED WRITES and the data was lost, for example in sudden power loss or BSOD. You can fix dirty bit manually using fsutils. Nothing less, nothing more. It has nothing to hardware damage. If you UNSURE that the dirty bit was set properly or your Task Scheduler didn't complete boot-up tasks you can initiate the check manually by using chkdsk /f or autochk by setting the dirty bit on. In 99.99% cases your OS does it AUTOMATICALLY without your interaction, because it is STANDARD PROTOCOL from the Microsoft. If you have actual hardware damage, using chkdsk is bad idea in general, neither /f, nor /r

When talking about how to check for hardware damage you have said use chkdsk /f. The rest of your paragraph is tangential. You have offered a solution, which if you really have the credentials you claim to have should have known that it would have missed the hardware damage.

Ergo:
1) You were trying to trick the person in question into believing he had not incurred hardware damage, as your position in the argument was that it was impossible.

2) You are not knowledgeable enough on the subject and either you do not have the credentials you claim to have OR you simply do not deserve those credentials.

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cursorTarget#1174 написал:

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Cainrith#2807 написал:

1)NVIDIA drivers cannot fix the bug on PCs with AMD GPU.
2)The bug NVIDIA refers to is not this problem. The problem they are fixing is another crash. The game is a crash-fest.

1) I know. This is the reason why I DID ask the AMD users to make some research and find information on the ATI / AMD forums. Oh wait, you can't read.
2) NVIDIA Representative (pidge2k) created new thread inherited from the user's one (xploid) with the question about PoE 2 crash, not Ubisoft's issues (m_w_h). I suppose you never used Reddit before.

That crash is not this crash. We know it because the crash is not Nvidia specific. Again: The bug NVIDIA refers to is not this problem. The problem they are fixing is another crash.

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cursorTarget#1174 написал:

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Cainrith#2807 написал:

Why are you so obsessed with Blizzard and not Square Enix?
When Ubisoft encountered a crashing problem like this they kept on communicating despite the fact that the problem was on Windows' side.

I don't give a crap about Blizzard and the other ones, but assumption that GGG paid me or other users (like IT guys above) to "deflect" this shit is complete and utter nonsense and delusional. The only thing that I can agree with you is that GGG should interact with their playerbase and help to fix the issue by interracting with the industry (Microsoft, driver / firmware writers, etc.). I already told why it is happened and I have some information that I cannot post here becuse it will break GGG rules 100%, but I can provide it privately. As nobody PMed me, so people don't care. Sure, babycrying on forums is the "our" way, indeed.

I am simply trying to comprehend why would people come to this thread and defend GGG by using faulty logic, misinformation, and/or deflection.

My logical conclusion was that people who act like this are gaining something from it. Monetary? Perhaps. Satisfaction of making other people lose money? Maybe. Fanaticism for GGG? Could be.

In my case, I dislike dishonest practices so I spend some time here to keep the threads bumped. I also do not want people to lose their PCs, because I was and I am still involved in charities so I know for a fact that for most people a sudden financial blow is the one that makes them start tumbling down. So my motivation is satisfaction of helping other people by warning them. Which is also why I ask for people to leave negative reviews on Steam, so that we can warn others (and make our dissatisfaction known).

All GGG should have done was to put a disclaimer and communicate. You or I knowing things does not change much. They should be informing people.

Furthermore, I ask anyone who sees this message to please give a negative review for Path of Exile 2 on Steam.

The IT bro dick measuring is cringe af. None of you know anything. stfu.

Can we please get an actual fix from GGG already? I don't even care about ruthless diablo 2 (aka poe2) it sucks, but the issue is present in PoE1 also.

And yeah downvote and leave bad reviews on steam until they do something.

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Elenher#4379 написал:

Sure boys, it's Microsoft, that's why there's people on Linux and W10 freezing.
Or people like me, who rolled back and it's still freezing. Or people like me too, that did a clean 23h2 install and still freezes.

People are reporting these kind of freezes since 23H2, so going back to it doesn't solve anything obviously...
W10 is done by which company..?
And for Linux: As mentioned there are probably different bugs around (like in drivers).

But you still didn't answer why it started for some (like me) in PoE1 when there weren't any GGG patches around? So obviously GGG is at fault here 🤣

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Elenher#4379 написал:

If you fixed it by something, all the power to you.

So changing the process priority solves it. Doesn't that hint to a process handling error by the OS to you? Not even a tiny bit? I bet you'd find no jury to find GGG guilty without the shadow of a doubt.

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Elenher#4379 написал:

But please, leave this threads alone, no one wants to read your fucking opinion on what is causing it.

To have only people like you here? Nope..

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Cainrith#2807 написал:

Furthermore, I ask anyone who sees this message to please give a negative review for Path of Exile 2 on Steam.

I guess I've to write a positive review to counter and furthermore I ask anyone who sees this message to write a positive review for Path of Exile 1 + 2 on Steam, because some people are unreasonable.

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Thalon#0722 написал:

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Cainrith#2807 написал:

Furthermore, I ask anyone who sees this message to please give a negative review for Path of Exile 2 on Steam.

I guess I've to write a positive review to counter and furthermore I ask anyone who sees this message to write a positive review for Path of Exile 1 + 2 on Steam, because some people are unreasonable.

Belay that.

I strongly encourage all reasonable human beings in this thread to leave a scathing review, for all that is sacred in life.

Same problem here

Everyone arguing.... chill out seriously.

new computer here as well
rtx 4060, amd cpu, win 11 bla bla.

no i'm not interested in putting in a negative review.

on/off multithreading between zones works, didn't have this problem in win 10, so 100% a window's issue. i'm sure a fix will be soon, but the last dev post is from dec 10.

happy hunting

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Gemonay#1977 написал:

Same problem here

Everyone arguing.... chill out seriously.

new computer here as well
rtx 4060, amd cpu, win 11 bla bla.

no i'm not interested in putting in a negative review.

on/off multithreading between zones works, didn't have this problem in win 10, so 100% a window's issue. i'm sure a fix will be soon, but the last dev post is from dec 10.

happy hunting

It is not a 100% windows issue.
Please educate yourself before such a wild assumption.
My older second PC is on Win10 and has the same issues.