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No idea where u get these numbers and i do know that i didnt spend 500 hours on any of my lvl 100 poe 1 chars. Just for ur information the world record is 31 min 39 sec fastest lvl 1-100 abusing party play and some broken strats in Necropolis league. Besides there are many ways to get to 100 fast in poe 1 even as a solo player (cowards trial,5 ways,chayula breachstones etc.) but party is always the fastest and im sure there will be some similar content in poe 2 once it releases.
Absolutely no one is even considering that fastest level 100 as average and that instance was a massive abuse of party play and took a team of players. No one should ever reference such a silly instance in this case.
These times are literally recorded, the amount of exp it takes to get to 100 is a definitive number. It's not something anyone just made up. You can have approximates based on that information and factor in the % of player base and the % of them who hit 100.
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- lost waystone/map ??? honestly if u die too often to sustain ur maps at this lvl then yeah ur build sucks and ur atlas tree is setup wrong.
- lost content/juice . Well this is probably gonna change at some point in some way but honestly i dont think i care too much. problem here is people can abuse running the same content over and over by not killing the last rare mob and complete the map
- lost currency/items unlooted. Well if u pick up loot along the way im pretty sure u only lost what the last mob that killed u dropped. Its not like ur entire inventory is gone.
- lost time investment. Well thats on u. If u consider all the loot u gathered before u died a waste of time then u probably should not play arpg's
You literally lose these things in PoE2- it's a fact, not something that just popped into my head. Totally relevant when comparing the loss/gains of a mechanic.
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- potential knowledge of why you failed. Well probably not quite true, but yes in some rare instances u are left with a ???? but thats why we have EA so we can find these issues.
- potential to improve character. This is definitely not true, almost any char can be improved but atm some chars and defence types are just way better than others which will see some changes in the near future, untill then all u have to do is a bit of research and adapt the char, this is unfortunately how it is atm untill it gets patched
Uhm okay, thanks for agreeing with me on something - the game isn't fully balanced and that's the context of all my post - these things need to be balanced better.
Последняя редакция: PhillipBurns#5461. Время: 5 янв. 2025 г., 15:19:27
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average 500h to get to 100? In a PoE league?
Source: Trust me bro?
I have a 100 in the settlers league. Played solo 99% of the time. I have reached about 250h-ish and was 100 for a long while. I spent at least half that time in hideout and or messing around with the town. Oh and I played as melee, I consider myself a slow player since I cannot play for too too long at a time due to my migraines. Due to the illness I die quite a lot since my concentration is rather "off". Oh, and I am old AF. So there is that xD
Most of my playtime has been normal mapping. I just stayed away from T17s/bosses while levling then when I ding a new level I do all the rippy maps, harder content. It is pretty basic really. Of people actually reaching 100 I bet I am in the lower 25% skill wise and that is not counting all those getting boosted by services(which I never do).
Also have 2 100s in other leagues(I dunno why it is relevant but you asked for it) but by now I bet you don't really care to read what others say.
Snarky way to start the conversation, but okay - I'll try to match that energy I guess,
Sources as I said in an earlier post;
Personal experience, years of playing, years of playing with people who hit 100 regularly & Google search engine - also keep in mind I said approximate; if you can hold a thought that long, anyways;
The XP of Level 100 is 4,250,334,444. You need 300+ maps just to get from 99 to 100. When we are going 100 million XP/hour at level 99, it takes about 42.5 hours.
It took you less than 250 hours of play time to reach 100? That still equates to almost 3 hours a day for 90 days if you're being genuine about it.
Do you work? Do you have other priorities or is 3 hours a day on a video game just something that fits your situation?
The relevancy is clearly implied - what allows someone to achieve something that on average takes more time than most players will even have to commit to it in a league?
Thanks for your feedback
Thanks for replying,
Again the current world record is 31 min 39 sec in Necropolis league and a map is not just a map with a fixed amount of xp. ITS CALLED JUICE and using the tools/mechanics available for more xp gain. Anyway here it is have fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go1hg93_LkM
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СообщениеMrPedez#49345 янв. 2025 г., 15:20:15
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Unfortunately that math is very off. I did lvl 99 -> 100 average about 20m xp/h in SSF. It definitely wasn't 42 hours. Maybe 10. You will never ever get 100m xp/h at level 99, maybe if you do something insane like party play legion 5 way carries.
I believe the issue is you've equated 4,250,334,444 as the xp between 99 and 100. But that's the xp between 0 and 100. The xp between 99 and 100 is only about 250m.
That number is using the most efficient leveling methods at level 99 to include party play and the like.
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Experience#Experience_table
You went from 99 to 100 in 10 hours of solo play? That sounds a bit sus
Последняя редакция: PhillipBurns#5461. Время: 5 янв. 2025 г., 15:34:23
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Again the current world record is 31 min 39 sec in Necropolis league and a map is not just a map with a fixed amount of xp. ITS CALLED JUICE and using the tools/mechanics available for more xp gain. Anyway here it is have fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go1hg93_LkM
Just wow. Great example of how to hit level 100 with a dedicated team. Totally relevant to this forum.
Последняя редакция: PhillipBurns#5461. Время: 5 янв. 2025 г., 15:29:51
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The xp between 99 and 100 is only about 250m.
Sorry to barge in ( I don't have any meaningful thing to say ) but if the 250m 99-100 is correct on PoE 1 ( which doesn't look right to me even if I never played it ), then I'd be inclined to ask why do I need 2.268.549.086 from 91-92 in PoE 2 ?
Should I open up a new topic and "scream" about it? Haha.
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Сообщениеmrxkon#57645 янв. 2025 г., 15:38:25
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The xp between 99 and 100 is only about 250m.
Sorry to barge in ( I don't have any meaningful thing to say ) but if the 250m 99-100 is correct on PoE 1 ( which doesn't look right to me even if I never played it ), then I'd be inclined to ask why do I need 2.268.549.086 from 91-92 in PoE 2 ?
Should I open up a new topic and "scream" about it? Haha.
You dont need 2.268.549.086 from 91-92, u need a total of 2.268.549.086 counting from lvl 1. For ur information im currently lvl 91 on my second char which is a Titan and have 80% xp towards 92 and the missing 20% is just around 33.000.000 give or take a few 100k which equivalent to about 165.000.000 xp from 91-92
Последняя редакция: MrPedez#4934. Время: 5 янв. 2025 г., 16:03:03
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СообщениеMrPedez#49345 янв. 2025 г., 15:48:34
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average 500h to get to 100? In a PoE league?
Source: Trust me bro?
I have a 100 in the settlers league. Played solo 99% of the time. I have reached about 250h-ish and was 100 for a long while. I spent at least half that time in hideout and or messing around with the town. Oh and I played as melee, I consider myself a slow player since I cannot play for too too long at a time due to my migraines. Due to the illness I die quite a lot since my concentration is rather "off". Oh, and I am old AF. So there is that xD
Most of my playtime has been normal mapping. I just stayed away from T17s/bosses while levling then when I ding a new level I do all the rippy maps, harder content. It is pretty basic really. Of people actually reaching 100 I bet I am in the lower 25% skill wise and that is not counting all those getting boosted by services(which I never do).
Also have 2 100s in other leagues(I dunno why it is relevant but you asked for it) but by now I bet you don't really care to read what others say.
Snarky way to start the conversation, but okay - I'll try to match that energy I guess,
Sources as I said in an earlier post;
Personal experience, years of playing, years of playing with people who hit 100 regularly & Google search engine - also keep in mind I said approximate; if you can hold a thought that long, anyways;
The XP of Level 100 is 4,250,334,444. You need 300+ maps just to get from 99 to 100. When we are going 100 million XP/hour at level 99, it takes about 42.5 hours.
It took you less than 250 hours of play time to reach 100? That still equates to almost 3 hours a day for 90 days if you're being genuine about it.
Do you work? Do you have other priorities or is 3 hours a day on a video game just something that fits your situation?
The relevancy is clearly implied - what allows someone to achieve something that on average takes more time than most players will even have to commit to it in a league?
Thanks for your feedback
Thanks for replying,
Maybe it isn't something they want most players to reach. I cant speak for them, i don't know this for certain, but looking at all the other aspects of the game I would say that its a pretty realistic possibility. It seems to me like they don't want to design the game around 100 being a standard that most people reach. I personally don't see a problem with this since it isn't necessary for any other aspect of the game. While I'm sure there are exceptions, for the majority of builds, those last 10 points are not adding any significant statistical value to your character.
I'm not against tuning this, but id much rather see them tune the incentives to make running harder content more attractive to run over safe low lvl xp farm. The xp penalty isn't a good reason to avoid this content, i think that's kind of where I'm at. They need to create incentives that make people worry less about HAVING to hit 100 (because you dont), and more about enjoying the gameplay.
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Сообщениеogmersault#48065 янв. 2025 г., 15:53:24
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You dont need 2.268.549.086 from 91-92, u need a total of 2.268.549.086 counting from lvl 1
Ah you're correct, I just dinged and realized that it shows "current total xp / next level total". I thought it was 'resetting' for every level, but I've never really looked on the tooltip that much until now to be fair.
Thanks!
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Сообщениеmrxkon#57645 янв. 2025 г., 15:57:05
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You dont need 2.268.549.086 from 91-92, u need a total of 2.268.549.086 counting from lvl 1
Ah you're correct, I just dinged and realized that it shows "current total xp / next level total". I thought it was 'resetting' for every level, but I've never really looked on the tooltip that much until now to be fair.
Thanks!
Np :)
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СообщениеMrPedez#49345 янв. 2025 г., 16:00:51
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Still endgame 1 portal per map is a waste of time ! For no reason or added value.
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СообщениеSogardev#97135 янв. 2025 г., 17:09:08
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