Why are 95% of the skills garbage?

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Nicky1g#7031 написал:
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Nubman#6211 написал:
Only 5 viable builds, yet the current ladder has almost a full range of all ascendancies..


Out of the top 1000 players on the leaderboard 791 of them are either amazon, lich, smith of kitava or deadeye so 4 ascendancies out of 17, and at the opposite end of the spectrum there's only 1 bloodmage in top 1000 and 2 acolyte of chayula, so yea you didn't do yourself a favor when you gave that example.

Also if you wanna make an argument that 3 of those ascendancies are new so its normal for them to be more popular, well ritualist is also a new ascendency yet only 20 ppl in top 1000 play it, same goes for tactician, only 7 ppl play it. And even if you remove all the new ascendancies entirely assuming people would only play them because they wanna try out the new stuff, you're still left with a top made of 300 players where only 3 players are either acolyte or bloodmage, out of 12 ascendancies.

This only proves what other users said earlier and what is common sense, and that is the fact that there will always be a meta and the vast majority of players will lean into that, regardless of the vision of the devs or how hard they try to nerf and control everything.

Idk maybe I'm wrong but instead of trying to crush every fun build into the ground maybe they should only moderately nerf the current op ones and boost the weak ones to find an actual good balance between all builds so that people could play what they like and live their power fantasy in poe2.... if they wanna keep player retention that is. And they could find solutions that would align with their vision as well.

The only reason for a build to actually get nuked imo is if it abused some mechanics that it wasn't intended to, basically exploiting them.

TL;DR Yes there are only a few good builds, and yes that's not a good thing, but nuking things out of existence or throwing tons of garbage items/skills at the players is not how this issue is fixed.


well they both seem like super late game ascendancies, not that much of a surprise really.
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poe10000#0331 написал:
There are about 5 builds that can do the campaign in less than 20 hours without 100+ deaths. Wtf is this?


Using the huntress that people are saying it is Crap. and I am completing acts on average 2.5 hours each (I do not have that much time to play so did not finish yet),.. ZERO deaths at act 3. If a 46 year old man that do not have reflexes to play any FPS without be laughed at can do it.. means your approach might be wrong.


That said.. there are a lot of skills that are indeed NEARLY useless. Not 95%, but some good half . For me they fell in a trap of wanting so much variety that they either have useless skills or they have copoes of each other skill
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Nicky1g#7031 написал:
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Nubman#6211 написал:
Only 5 viable builds, yet the current ladder has almost a full range of all ascendancies..


Out of the top 1000 players on the leaderboard 791 of them are either amazon, lich, smith of kitava or deadeye so 4 ascendancies out of 17, and at the opposite end of the spectrum there's only 1 bloodmage in top 1000 and 2 acolyte of chayula, so yea you didn't do yourself a favor when you gave that example.




OMG.. who would have guessed that the NEW CONTENT classes and ascendancies would be the most played for people returning to experience NEW CONTENT?

WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED?!!!
But you should be thankful for the 100 new support gems that brought wonderful balance to the game. oh wait.
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But you should be thankful for the 100 new support gems that brought wonderful balance to the game. oh wait.


tbh a good half of them are interesting. The others seems too niche.
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Urza_Mechwalker#7393 написал:
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poe10000#0331 написал:
There are about 5 builds that can do the campaign in less than 20 hours without 100+ deaths. Wtf is this?


Using the huntress that people are saying it is Crap. and I am completing acts on average 2.5 hours each (I do not have that much time to play so did not finish yet),.. ZERO deaths at act 3. If a 46 year old man that do not have reflexes to play any FPS without be laughed at can do it.. means your approach might be wrong.


That said.. there are a lot of skills that are indeed NEARLY useless. Not 95%, but some good half . For me they fell in a trap of wanting so much variety that they either have useless skills or they have copoes of each other skill


So you basicly telling him he's bad at the game and ignoring that you might had get a good spear and he didnt just like me and had the worst experience ever.
I had to literally swap to crossbow to progress in the game instead of being able to play huntress because there were literally ZERO drops and the ones that were theyre were bad spears, same for the vendors. yeah sure thats my own fault and not a design flaw or RNG even after following builds exactly as they did which i hate normally the problem was gear not skill.
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mastag#4793 написал:
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Urza_Mechwalker#7393 написал:
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poe10000#0331 написал:
There are about 5 builds that can do the campaign in less than 20 hours without 100+ deaths. Wtf is this?


Using the huntress that people are saying it is Crap. and I am completing acts on average 2.5 hours each (I do not have that much time to play so did not finish yet),.. ZERO deaths at act 3. If a 46 year old man that do not have reflexes to play any FPS without be laughed at can do it.. means your approach might be wrong.


That said.. there are a lot of skills that are indeed NEARLY useless. Not 95%, but some good half . For me they fell in a trap of wanting so much variety that they either have useless skills or they have copoes of each other skill


So you basicly telling him he's bad at the game and ignoring that you might had get a good spear and he didnt just like me and had the worst experience ever.
I had to literally swap to crossbow to progress in the game instead of being able to play huntress because there were literally ZERO drops and the ones that were theyre were bad spears, same for the vendors. yeah sure thats my own fault and not a design flaw or RNG even after following builds exactly as they did which i hate normally the problem was gear not skill.


No.. and stop putting words on my mouth. I said literally "Your approach might be wrong". Jsust means he may need to try it in a different way. I have been changing my spear every time I can gamble for it. Nothing amazing in fact. Got no spear with skill level bonus. Right now I am using one with +48% phys damage and an added fire damage mod, rest of bonuses are mostly weak
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mastag#4793 написал:

I had to literally swap to crossbow to progress in the game instead of being able to play huntress because there were literally ZERO drops and the ones that were theyre were bad spears, same for the vendors. yeah sure thats my own fault and not a design flaw or RNG even after following builds exactly as they did which i hate normally the problem was gear not skill.


Where's the design flaw exactly?
You are never stuck in this game, you just grind a map and carry on, maybe with the same map.
People were telling me before this patch "you should see the beauty in playing other classes, thats what POE's about!", well clearly not because I just like playing Monk and I'll use weapon swap mechanics and grind maps thanks.
If you're that committed you will carry on and laugh about it...

You talk about like its all about gear, well the skill and progression is always there and if you're struggling with your build and hate the gear you've found on huntress that much, GGG isn't stopping you from skillfully playing a class you can perform on, finding great drops, put it in your storage and off you go all powerful on huntress! (all uniques I'm picking up also have no lvl requirements).

The underlying issue here is, is it really that upsetting for yourself to have a struggling playthrough while someone else gets really lucky? Both avenues of progression can lead to different or strange degree's of fun and challenge, do you really want this game made so that there's almost guaranteed milestones, streamers parroting "So the entire campaign will take you roughly 20hrs of gameplay activity".

I'm really tired of people taking gaming like Fast Food...

Последняя редакция: TrunktenUK#3407. Время: 8 апр. 2025 г., 07:54:11
This really is very weird and stupid frankly.

If I want to play as a Fire Sorc or whatever, I should be able to.
solution: instant trade

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