Why are 95% of the skills garbage?

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wildwolf31#0765 написал:

This really is very weird and stupid frankly.

If I want to play as a Fire Sorc or whatever, I should be able to.

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92ranger#4205 написал:

It's because you have a choice:

1) Meta builds faceroll the content and most "homebrew" builds end up being viable for completing content (at least campaign + early maps). This is good for casual players.

2) You balance everything around meta builds, so they can't faceroll content, and the majority of casual/homebrew builds are non-viable. This punishes casual players.

You cannot escape this choice. I for one think ARPGs should be fun, and casual players should be able to succeed with casual builds (as long as they understand basic POE2 mechanics like sockets, links, which types of support gems to use, etc). But by definition this means that meta builds WILL faceroll the content.

I think the current vision for POE2 is a failure, because it alienates the majority of casual players. If GGG is happy having ~200k players willing to grind through POE2 in its current form, then good for them. But I suspect Tencent will have something to say about that.

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92ranger#4205 написал:

I think the current vision for POE2 is a failure, because it alienates the majority of casual players. If GGG is happy having ~200k players willing to grind through POE2 in its current form, then good for them. But I suspect Tencent will have something to say about that.

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Nicky1g#7031 написал:

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Nubman#6211 написал:

Only 5 viable builds, yet the current ladder has almost a full range of all ascendancies..

Out of the top 1000 players on the leaderboard 791 of them are either amazon, lich, smith of kitava or deadeye so 4 ascendancies out of 17, and at the opposite end of the spectrum there's only 1 bloodmage in top 1000 and 2 acolyte of chayula, so yea you didn't do yourself a favor when you gave that example.

Also if you wanna make an argument that 3 of those ascendancies are new so its normal for them to be more popular, well ritualist is also a new ascendency yet only 20 ppl in top 1000 play it, same goes for tactician, only 7 ppl play it. And even if you remove all the new ascendancies entirely assuming people would only play them because they wanna try out the new stuff, you're still left with a top made of 300 players where only 3 players are either acolyte or bloodmage, out of 12 ascendancies.

This only proves what other users said earlier and what is common sense, and that is the fact that there will always be a meta and the vast majority of players will lean into that, regardless of the vision of the devs or how hard they try to nerf and control everything.

Idk maybe I'm wrong but instead of trying to crush every fun build into the ground maybe they should only moderately nerf the current op ones and boost the weak ones to find an actual good balance between all builds so that people could play what they like and live their power fantasy in poe2.... if they wanna keep player retention that is. And they could find solutions that would align with their vision as well.

The only reason for a build to actually get nuked imo is if it abused some mechanics that it wasn't intended to, basically exploiting them.

TL;DR Yes there are only a few good builds, and yes that's not a good thing, but nuking things out of existence or throwing tons of garbage items/skills at the players is not how this issue is fixed.

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eye_356#2542 написал:

The game shouldnt be balanced around the top 2-3 skills, it should be balanced around the mid skill.

When u balance the game around the top skills every other skills doesnt work. Its a really bad design issue, just let the top skill destroy the game - who fckin cares? Its a game, not an esport.