We Need In-Game Instant Buyout Trading — Not Just the Trade Site

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bewilder2#0356 написал:

because they have to tailor every single thing in the game around the capability of players to easily acquire gears and resources needed and quit playing the game in less than 2 weeks.

You are the smartest person that I have ever seen, and I agree with you 100%.

It is much better to have the players sitting in the trade site, waiting for sellers to login, sending hundreds of whispers, just so they can get geared up...

Sure they will quit playing the game in less than 2 weeks after that anyway...
But at least they will be majorly pissed off for wasting so much time.

Definitely this experience will make them come back.
I'm sure of it.

IMHO instant buyouts means that most players will never have a clue of real price of items they found. Current system avoids this issue in the way that, if you set price too low, you'll receive tons of requests and can correct the price.

The problem of current trading is not about being not able to instantly buy whatever you found on market, if such thing will be implemented market will become very unstable and flooded within first days of huge updates.
Instead we need to fix the issue where sellers need to stop doing whatever they are doing just to go back to their hideout, find item and wait to buyer to come to them and bla-bla-bla just to sell something for small price. This is a real time consuming process, we need to fix THIS issue.

And here I'd suggest to implement some kind of remote trade accept window where seller will receive notification of what of their item and by what price is requested to be sold and they can accept it without needing to leave area they currently in.

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If GGG knows the current system sucks, if they’ve already said instant buyouts are the answer, and if they’ve worked out how to implement it using gold — what are we waiting for?

They're working on it, relax man.

This is the FIRST patch in early access, these things take actual time and a TON of effort to get done.

Imho the simplest fix would be to partially automate the trades while limiting them to a certain number per day and account so bots can't run the show completely unbothered and with no delay.
Downside for some players would be that the game couldn't be played like an Eve:Online mass trader. But with lower hurdle more people overall will participate and sell some of their stuff.

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RusinaRange#6285 написал:

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If GGG knows the current system sucks, if they’ve already said instant buyouts are the answer, and if they’ve worked out how to implement it using gold — what are we waiting for?

They're working on it, relax man.

This is the FIRST patch in early access, these things take actual time and a TON of effort to get done.

How do you know what they are working on?

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Soulscar1#4896 написал:

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RusinaRange#6285 написал:

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If GGG knows the current system sucks, if they’ve already said instant buyouts are the answer, and if they’ve worked out how to implement it using gold — what are we waiting for?

They're working on it, relax man.

This is the FIRST patch in early access, these things take actual time and a TON of effort to get done.

How do you know what they are working on?

He doesn't know, he assumes.

What we know is that Jonathan agreed that something like a "marketplace", where ppl can trade items (not only currency) because the community asked for it over many years, and they have to go with the times.
We also know that it does not have the highest priority because there is a trading system atm that works - not great, not how ppl want it, but it works, thus not the highest priority when focusing on the PoE2 development.

Stuff like "We are planning on a marketplace" (paraphrasing) is over 12 months old... so... how accurate the claim is "They are working on it, relax man.", is up to you.

+1 and bump for having this system in-game sooner rather than later.

The problem with the current system is that it makes the game Pay to Win, and people don't seem to realize that. The game is obviously balanced around trading, you can see that by the pitiful state of SSF. Balancing a game around something that you need to pay for (the trading stash tab costs money) makes it Pay to Win. And also it's really bad design-wise to balance a game around something, that you need to alt-tab out of the game to use. For me those are some high-priority issues, if the devs think otherwise it only means they like the extra money they get from the trading stash tabs.

Free to use, in-game marketplace would solve those issues, however would lower the MTX income, so I don't think it will happen before 1.0 if at all. I hope I'm wrong and that I'll be plesantly suprised.

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Soulscar1#4896 написал:

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RusinaRange#6285 написал:

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If GGG knows the current system sucks, if they’ve already said instant buyouts are the answer, and if they’ve worked out how to implement it using gold — what are we waiting for?

They're working on it, relax man.

This is the FIRST patch in early access, these things take actual time and a TON of effort to get done.

How do you know what they are working on?

If you look at OPs post he said this:

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They acknowledged that PoE 2 needs:
■ Instant buyouts■ Proper search■ A limiting factor like non-tradeable gold■ Anti-bot design■ Equal access to all players

They even confirmed that they’re already planning a gold-based, instant buyout system. So if that’s the future, why are we stuck in the past?

The current currency trade system is designed for bots to flip 24/7 without moving specifically for the RMT's. Any new trade system will mirror the currency trade, I will bet anyone a pound to a pinch of shit on this one.

Here is what will happen. The RMT's will be the first "player base" (every league) to get decent currency as there are thousands working round the clock putting their money in the pot. Then every item worth owning will be flipped and flipped until people need to buy POE currency from them.

Currently the ratio is 1$ per divine and GGG are doing NOTHING. How do I know this? Seen it in real time. "Just let me buy a few divines 5 mins" - "what are you buying divines with mate you are level 58"? "Money of course durrr" - My mate. Also the RMT's are advertising on google, MS and pretty much all search engines. This is illegal without express permission from the IP owners.

Mmmm didn't know you could P2W a hyper monetized F2P game.... Wait! The other thing.

Why would a game company introduce a currency trade system so obviously manipulatable and leave the current trade system as is? Why is it so difficult to take item from tab A) and place it in tab B)? The currency trade does exactly that right now. Because without the massive convolution you would be able to see the flipping, botting and scamming in real time by refreshing trade.

Why don't people respond form trade? The first 40 items are price fixers, not like POE 1 where the first 2-3 now we have 40-100. The only reply you get is when you offer 10 x minimum. Or my new favorite which I never saw before "the price gone up from 1 ex to 30 ex".

The RMT's are proxy owned by tencent and operate from China. Again I would put money on this.

That's just a conspiracy theory. No it is how the gaming industry works in east Asia, I lived there for half a decade. Don't get me wrong I have no issue with companies making money however they can all I can do is not feed this soulless manipulation of addicts though a gambling simulator.

Put a 1 div item on for 1 ex and the spam you get is INSANE. Still not convinced? Well it is difficult to win an argument with a smart person but near impossible to convince a.......