Melee Gameplay Is Not It

It likely only feels weak to people that are used to playing monk or deadeye. its certainly not weak compared to warrior. It feels about the same as fire titan in .3.
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rassvet9#4411 написал:
Im rocking bear right now and crushing bosses man. Also, the ladder means nothing. Just play the dang game. Stop comparing yourself to what others are doing and just play to have fun. If your build sucks...figure it out.

So many people compare themselves to other players and its just so tiresome.



I'm not comparing myself to anyone, so keep your fantasies to yourself. The rating simply tells us what a druid and a bear in particular are like, divorced from your personal experience.[/quote]


no...no it doesn't. It just shows what people are playing on the ladder. Just because some people play a build and don't wanna do the ladder doesn't mean the build A. sucks or B. isn't viable.

ITs divorced from your personal experience.
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Hyperspacing#5593 написал:
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rassvet9#4411 написал:
Im rocking bear right now and crushing bosses man. Also, the ladder means nothing. Just play the dang game. Stop comparing yourself to what others are doing and just play to have fun. If your build sucks...figure it out.

So many people compare themselves to other players and its just so tiresome.



I'm not comparing myself to anyone, so keep your fantasies to yourself. The rating simply tells us what a druid and a bear in particular are like, divorced from your personal experience.



no...no it doesn't. It just shows what people are playing on the ladder. Just because some people play a build and don't wanna do the ladder doesn't mean the build A. sucks or B. isn't viable.

ITs divorced from your personal experience. [/quote]

Never understood why you felt the need to keep antagonizing people who speak ill of the game Jonathan.
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no...no it doesn't. It just shows what people are playing on the ladder. Just because some people play a build and don't wanna do the ladder doesn't mean the build A. sucks or B. isn't viable.

ITs divorced from your personal experience.


How can you "don't wanna do the ladder" when you can't?

https://pathofexile2.com/ladder/Fate%2520of%2520the%2520Vaal

The current minimum requirement to be on ladder is having Level 93 with >=2,492,496,027 EXP.

This equates to top 1000 players and their build reaching this certain threshold the fastest. This ladder represents the current 1000 most efficient players / builds.

It's like saying "I'm not playing for Premier League Cup because I don't wanna"
[1] "Meaningful Combat" Is Anti-ARPG: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3884793

[2] Mechanical Skill (Dodgeroll) and Intellectual Skill (Build Theorycrafting) exists on a spectrum.: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3883605
Последняя редакция: nagisanzeninzz#2697. Время: 15 дек. 2025 г., 00:35:42
see i had kinda the opposite experience

I play only melee and when i tried ranged it was so easy that it became boring very fast
Being able to just outrange the majority of things in the game and also moving while doing dps makes the game way too easy and boring

That being said i do agree that there is a huge issue here, ranged should have to deal with these mechanics too and some things like the abyss dot circle are just completely stupid
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nagisanzeninzz#2697 написал:

https://pathofexile2.com/ladder/Fate%2520of%2520the%2520Vaal

This equates to top 1000 players and their build reaching this certain threshold the fastest. This ladder represents the current 1000 most efficient players / builds.



Doesnt seem like you understand what this ladder shows you.


Ladder doesnt even show you builds in the first place.
Mash the clean
I do not enjoy it as well.

At first I tried playing as a monk with lightning skills, the way game offered initial setup. Gameplay felt weird. Palm mobs for power charges then slam the staff for massive AoE. Ice stuff was even worse.
Going for pure armor felt extra squishy, so tried to get ES whenever possible, since at least I can dodge and move back, to recover the shield.
Ditched character before lvl 10.

Tried shapeshifter druid. Farmed living hell of first zones for iron rings, neck, blue gear. Yeah, was different story (still went for WW). Lvl 17 atm. Quite enjoyable when running lower level zones.

Planning to try out Warrior Bear, since they seem to have good synergies between skills and ascendancy, after I finish Act 1.
A lot of technical issues atm, like invisible monster. Quite a nuisance.
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Mashgesture#2912 написал:
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nagisanzeninzz#2697 написал:

https://pathofexile2.com/ladder/Fate%2520of%2520the%2520Vaal

This equates to top 1000 players and their build reaching this certain threshold the fastest. This ladder represents the current 1000 most efficient players / builds.



Doesnt seem like you understand what this ladder shows you.


Ladder doesnt even show you builds in the first place.


Sure buddy.

6 out of 1000 on ladder is Chronomancer. By your logic, their missing brothers must be in the "don't wannna be on the ladder"

https://ibb.co/gMc1FRtX

[1] "Meaningful Combat" Is Anti-ARPG: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3884793

[2] Mechanical Skill (Dodgeroll) and Intellectual Skill (Build Theorycrafting) exists on a spectrum.: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3883605
Последняя редакция: nagisanzeninzz#2697. Время: 15 дек. 2025 г., 01:41:27
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nagisanzeninzz#2697 написал:


This equates to top 1000 players and their build reaching this certain threshold the fastest. This ladder represents the current 1000 most efficient players / builds.

Sure buddy.

6 out of 1000 on ladder is Chronomancer. By your logic, their missing brothers must be in the "don't wannna be on the ladder"


The ladder shows you their ascendancy and experience.


Nothing else.


An ascendancy isnt a build.
Mash the clean
Последняя редакция: Mashgesture#2912. Время: 15 дек. 2025 г., 01:42:48
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Mashgesture#2912 написал:
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nagisanzeninzz#2697 написал:


This equates to top 1000 players and their build reaching this certain threshold the fastest. This ladder represents the current 1000 most efficient players / builds.

Sure buddy.

6 out of 1000 on ladder is Chronomancer. By your logic, their missing brothers must be in the "don't wannna be on the ladder"


The ladder shows you their ascendancy and experience.


Nothing else.


An ascendancy isnt a build.


You talk like an ascendacy have infinite amount of builds. Most of of them play the 1-3 strongest, highest picked PoE.ninja builds anyway.
[1] "Meaningful Combat" Is Anti-ARPG: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3884793

[2] Mechanical Skill (Dodgeroll) and Intellectual Skill (Build Theorycrafting) exists on a spectrum.: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3883605

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