Is DESYNC - really - that much of a problem? Really?

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MrTortoise написал:

but seriously if you cannot sit down and logically figure out all the various posible netcode approaches to a game and evaluate their outcomes you do not deserve to understand why desync is really not that bad an outcome. Seriously peope are arguing as if you can have the moon and eat it. All games are a simulation that involves abstractions. Abstractions have cost.

I agree here. People will claim that the approach they suggested would definitely be better for desync, it might not for the game. There's no such thing as a perfect solution to such a problem and there would always be drawbacks and that particular solution is perfect to you ONLY because YOU can live with that drawback.

For example - Resynching more. Which due to a higher server might lead to more frequent disconnections due to inadequate servers, and hence cause GGG to upgrade/increase their servers which leads to the increased amount of funds thrown at servers instead of other things like content/pay for staffs, which would lead to less new content, even more spam bots, even longer support reply time, more expensive microtransactions (or even making you pay for waypoints/maps, stuff like that for them to squeeze out more money to keep the game alive). I suppose after all these server changes maintenance would not be a few minutes matter anymore too, something that i absolutely love about this game.

There's no such thing as a perfect game, game will always be not perfect for someone else.

I know no matter what i say, the i-want-desync-to-be-eradicated-totally-no-matter-what minority will still got nuts about it.

- Member of the minority(?) of players that has no problems with desync and do not want to lose what they love about the game

Just lost all my progress on dominus tonight. Playing regular mode, cruel. Went through about 35 portal scrolls and had his second form down to 1/2 life. I hit escape to close out my inventory window, and due to the insane choppy frame rate and desync, somehow it closed out my entire game. Gone. I logged back in but my portal in town was gone.

I had to use about 35 portal scrolls in the first place because the frame rate in the scene with dominus is so incredibly bad. I can't even see where he is on the screen half the time. I just toss fire traps and spam ethereal knives. I end up dying a lot but at least I make slow progress. All the rain in the animation and all the spells and npcs are way too much .

I only have 40 portal scrolls left and they take me awhile to accrue. I don't even feel safe trying to approach end-game with 40 fucking portal scrolls.

I'm in the US. I have 6GB ram, good internet connection, decent graphics card. Other games like D3 look great on my computer, no problems whatsoever. Total BS. I wanted to throw my computer at the fucking wall.

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Xaxarius написал:

Just lost all my progress on dominus tonight. Playing regular mode, cruel. Went through about 35 portal scrolls and had his second form down to 1/2 life. I hit escape to close out my inventory window, and due to the insane choppy frame rate and desync, somehow it closed out my entire game. Gone. I logged back in but my portal in town was gone.

I had to use about 35 portal scrolls in the first place because the frame rate in the scene with dominus is so incredibly bad. I can't even see where he is on the screen half the time. I just toss fire traps and spam ethereal knives. I end up dying a lot but at least I make slow progress. All the rain in the animation and all the spells and npcs are way too much .

I only have 40 portal scrolls left and they take me awhile to accrue. I don't even feel safe trying to approach end-game with 40 fucking portal scrolls.

I'm in the US. I have 6GB ram, good internet connection, decent graphics card. Other games like D3 look great on my computer, no problems whatsoever. Total BS. I wanted to throw my computer at the fucking wall.

sorry, i just find the fact you had to use 35 TP scrolls to kill dominus utterly HILARIOUS.

you are doing it wrong.

Desync will never be fixed. It will continue to be incrementally improved.

I would guess it's a hc thing mostly. I personally don't have the patience for that and after creating one gimped build; I've learned the art and gaming skill of ZERGING! Desync shouldn't be any problem on sc unless you've got a short fuse.

As a nemesis player, I personally dont mind it.


I use a /oos macro that I map to my mice when I think that I might be desync.

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geniusbean написал:

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Xaxarius написал:

Just lost all my progress on dominus tonight. Playing regular mode, cruel. Went through about 35 portal scrolls and had his second form down to 1/2 life. I hit escape to close out my inventory window, and due to the insane choppy frame rate and desync, somehow it closed out my entire game. Gone. I logged back in but my portal in town was gone.

I had to use about 35 portal scrolls in the first place because the frame rate in the scene with dominus is so incredibly bad. I can't even see where he is on the screen half the time. I just toss fire traps and spam ethereal knives. I end up dying a lot but at least I make slow progress. All the rain in the animation and all the spells and npcs are way too much .

I only have 40 portal scrolls left and they take me awhile to accrue. I don't even feel safe trying to approach end-game with 40 fucking portal scrolls.

I'm in the US. I have 6GB ram, good internet connection, decent graphics card. Other games like D3 look great on my computer, no problems whatsoever. Total BS. I wanted to throw my computer at the fucking wall.

sorry, i just find the fact you had to use 35 TP scrolls to kill dominus utterly HILARIOUS.

you are doing it wrong.

..and I didn't even beat him totally :(

You gotta check out how shitty my game plays to really appreciate my handicap. I'm not a fucking idiot who expects to face tank this shit. I had +75 resists on all 3 elemental damages. My dude is a level 60 shadow. Have about 1300HP, doing 1300dps with my ethereal knives on a 5-link chest I found. My fire trap is 700+avg damage. Using whirlwind to get out of tough situations. Double daggers. I feel like if I could actually SEE what is going on I can play the game fine. I have no trouble with any other bosses like this. Sure, I died on Piety but only like twice. I play by myself.
The desync in the rest of the game I can put up with. Random deaths here and there are shitty but don't break the game. But the Dominus fight is just so goddamn choppy and I appear all over the screen, my guy doesn't ever animate throwing knives/traps, it's just pathetic.

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Xaxarius написал:

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geniusbean написал:

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Xaxarius написал:

Just lost all my progress on dominus tonight. Playing regular mode, cruel. Went through about 35 portal scrolls and had his second form down to 1/2 life. I hit escape to close out my inventory window, and due to the insane choppy frame rate and desync, somehow it closed out my entire game. Gone. I logged back in but my portal in town was gone.

I had to use about 35 portal scrolls in the first place because the frame rate in the scene with dominus is so incredibly bad. I can't even see where he is on the screen half the time. I just toss fire traps and spam ethereal knives. I end up dying a lot but at least I make slow progress. All the rain in the animation and all the spells and npcs are way too much .

I only have 40 portal scrolls left and they take me awhile to accrue. I don't even feel safe trying to approach end-game with 40 fucking portal scrolls.

I'm in the US. I have 6GB ram, good internet connection, decent graphics card. Other games like D3 look great on my computer, no problems whatsoever. Total BS. I wanted to throw my computer at the fucking wall.

sorry, i just find the fact you had to use 35 TP scrolls to kill dominus utterly HILARIOUS.

you are doing it wrong.

..and I didn't even beat him totally :(

You gotta check out how shitty my game plays to really appreciate my handicap. I'm not a fucking idiot who expects to face tank this shit. I had +75 resists on all 3 elemental damages. My dude is a level 60 shadow. Have about 1300HP, doing 1300dps with my ethereal knives on a 5-link chest I found. My fire trap is 700+avg damage. Using whirlwind to get out of tough situations. Double daggers. I feel like if I could actually SEE what is going on I can play the game fine. I have no trouble with any other bosses like this. Sure, I died on Piety but only like twice. I play by myself.
The desync in the rest of the game I can put up with. Random deaths here and there are shitty but don't break the game. But the Dominus fight is just so goddamn choppy and I appear all over the screen, my guy doesn't ever animate throwing knives/traps, it's just pathetic.

cruel dominus at lvl60? 1300hp? bro what LOL

believe me, desync is the last of your problems

Well, desync is pretty annoying, at least. Sure, can live with it, in softcore at least. I admit, most my deaths are NOT from desync, despite i use Flicker Strike (strongly desyncing ability).
But in hardcore, even one death makes you lose everything you had along with your char. And it SEROIUSLY affect hardcore gameplay, making vast variety of tactics and build NOT viable only because desync exists.

I understand that the desync problem is a huge deal to fix. That being said, I'm not defending or judging GGG here but if they are aware of the problem they should not implement elements that are extremely desync potential.

I'm talking about: Multistrike, faster attacks, barrage, cyclone, quicksilver flasks, fast mobs, fast mobs + faster affix, filling the entire screen with monkeys that will set the desync to 2+sec delay.
I'm constantly hearing folks talking about building Around the desync, whilst that is a solution, my personal opinion is that it shouldn't be a necessity.

What I'm trying to say here is, since they are aware of the problem and it's such a pain in the butt to fix, they shouldn't implement stuffs that will make that problem more visible. It will only make people nag and QQ.