real story about RNG.

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RECTUMFISTER написал:
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phrazz написал:


.. Because of casuals Permanent allocation was added and I'm still pissed at GGG for that...


Mad, that now you can't ninja stuff from others or what? Play solo/in your party eg. set your own rules and steal stuff happily.


HEY! I didn't write that, fix your quoting, sir.
Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
What happened to being happy for your friends luck/fortune? I guess it's not really in today where everything is about mememememe.
Hejren / Triceps / Regnbuen / Sarinti / Striglen / Mareridt / Spoegelset / Doktoren / Dobbelganger / Skjoldtrold / Forkynderen
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grughal написал:
And why exactly do you have a problem with this? The game should be dictated purely on your skill? RNG always was a part of (a)RPG-experience.


read my initial post carefully sir. I have no problem with it, i was simply stating that i will not play PoE competitively for this reason.

This is not a "problem" just a fact of gathering data, applying logic and then coming to a conclusion.

Peace,

-Boem-
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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Boem написал:

read my initial post carefully sir. I have no problem with it, i was simply stating that i will not play PoE competitively for this reason.

This is not a "problem" just a fact of gathering data, applying logic and then coming to a conclusion.

Peace,

-Boem-



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Let's do some trolling rolling.

-learn2playnoob

-yourmategotskills

All that good stuff.

It is known and a lot of solid old-players have left because of it.

Other who i have known on the forums for a long time, where defending it in one league (when they had good rng) and shitting on it or at least admitting to me they where wrong, the next league.

And this is why any competitive side of PoE is laughable to me. Be it ladder/pvp/races whatever you fancy.

Put 2 people with the same wisdom/skill level and whatever you can think of.

Give one bad rng and the other good rng and the outcome is clear.

That's partially why i stopped considering this game for some competition and instead just utilize it to theory-craft and challenge myself or simply have fun chilling.

Peace,

-Boem-


How is it not indirectly implying you have a problem with something (=RNG affecting and interfering with the competetive part of the game) when posting something like this?

You want to challenge yourself but not try compete with other players playing the same game? What? Tried to do races, didn't do too well and blamed it all on the RNG? Then claiming racing as "laughable" indirectly mocking all racers since you didn't do too well on it?
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phrazz написал:
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RECTUMFISTER написал:
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phrazz написал:


.. Because of casuals Permanent allocation was added and I'm still pissed at GGG for that...


Mad, that now you can't ninja stuff from others or what? Play solo/in your party eg. set your own rules and steal stuff happily.


HEY! I didn't write that, fix your quoting, sir.


Another problem on the long list of problems.

GGG, make the quotes unchangeable.
basing your play factor on other players only means you're an immature player

sorry but that's the truth
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pichapie написал:
basing your play factor on other players only means you're an immature player

sorry but that's the truth


Yes if you ever compete and compare yourself with others in any matter you´re not mature... got it roger roger
What can never be lent or earned?
Somewhat, that devours everyone and everything:
A tree that rush. A bird that sings. It eat bones and smite the hardest stones.
Masticate every sword. Shatters every shrine. It defeat mighty kings and carry mountains on lightly wings.
What am i?
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Grughal написал:
How is it not indirectly implying you have a problem with something (=RNG affecting and interfering with the competetive part of the game) when posting something like this?

You want to challenge yourself but not try compete with other players playing the same game? What? Tried to do races, didn't do too well and blamed it all on the RNG? Then claiming racing as "laughable" indirectly mocking all racers since you didn't do too well on it?


In reality i did do some races and ended up mostly in the 200th position and better without training or actively investing time in it to get better.

Best position was 40 or something i think, you can check poestatistics for my account i am sure.

I am an observer, so i observe. What i observed was that any competitive scene on PoE is laughable to me since it correlates directly with the random element and not with player skill.

So yes, imo for competition to not be laughable, player skill would need to be prioritized prior to the random element.

And the only problem that i have with it, might be that i would enjoy playing PoE in a competitive scene if it was skill based. However since it is not, i enjoy it for what it is and enjoy the content + pve.

There is a reason why chris said himself that PoE wont be an E-sport any time soon. I am sure he is aware of the same fact's i am.

For reference, i played top ladder wc3 tft (position 2 of my country) so i know what a good E-sport is about.

Peace,

-Boem-

Edit : just to clarify, i do think racing requires a certain degree of skill, but when putting equal skilled players opposite of another, it is not the "mistakes" that make one win over the other. It is the random generator that decides this.
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
Последняя редакция: Boem#2861. Время: 26 июн. 2014 г., 18:21:32
Currently I also lost every interest to play the game.

Not sure if RNG is the reason, but still Id call it "inconsistant progression curve" which definitly a pain in the ass. Also I played similar games which actually were fun playing them because you were constantly rewarded with small pieces instead of one big jackpot.

Small tiny pieces definitly is better IMO.


Actually its pretty simple:

1. remove the inconstant progression and the "all or nothing" trash

2. make skills low cooldown based so playing the game is actuall fun and not just holding down either the left or the right mousebutton.

Will not happen though...

PS.:

my story is this:

I started as "Renor" played some months, spent all my Fusings on 6l, lost it all, asked GGG for deleting the account.

Made new account, played 1-2 months, spend another 50+ hours worth of farming for nothing on fusings.

and now I am here and I wonder why I should play the game if its nothing but punishing?

The fun thing is: there are people who invested a lot more than me FOR NOTHING.


It always pains me, when people in discussion do not distinguish between "positive randomness" and "negative randomness". This makes a big difference.

"negative randomness" is game design NO GO and "positive randomness" is DEBATEABLE.
Последняя редакция: ExiledRenor#3596. Время: 26 июн. 2014 г., 19:18:55
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DirkAustin написал:


Another problem on the long list of problems.

GGG, make the quotes unchangeable or else ill panty raid my moms house and run around the streets with them on my head screaming gibberish!!


Sorry, couldn't help it.
Thanks for all the fish!

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