The problem with Exalted Orbs

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Heli0nix написал:

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Today, you cannot even find an Exalt.

I don't know for standard league but i've never find so many exalt like now in warbands.
Even in closed bêta ( the 2013 one ).

I'm maybe ultra lucky ^^ 17 dropped for me atm.

Can I have one?

Found 0 so far in WB... =P

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Saltychipmunk написал:

maybe the fact that people are simple used to the exa being the go to currency. regardless I would expect a crash at some point as people wise up.

I agree and expect the same thing, I wouldn't be surprised that the crash happen soon, with the updated map droprate and the chaos need increasing, people are gonna want to sell ex for chaos and price will drop imo.

This exalt crap got pretty retarded.

Was planning to roll RF build on WB. Had to buy Koam's. And you know what? 6 exalts minimum.
Everyone wants pure currency.

WB being lackluster, coupled with this crap, just drove me into "Fuck no" state.
Sold my 2 exalts for 140 chaos, will buy cheap WB uniques and rolled back to standard.

There's no fun or challenge being handicapped.

It would be nice if GGG made a recipe of 40-50 chaos : exalt

(fixing the exalt price at a certain amount). Likely this will be slightly higher than the actual ratio of drops. I think the ratio is something like 25:1 drop wise, chaos recipe caused this kind of inflation I guess or there is a really good bot out there which is picking up all rares. Which would explain why exalts are 70:1 in standard / warbands and 40:1 or so in tempest.

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Sogolon написал:

It would be nice if GGG made a recipe of 40-50 chaos : exalt

(fixing the exalt price at a certain amount). Likely this will be slightly higher than the actual ratio of drops. I think the ratio is something like 25:1 drop wise, chaos recipe caused this kind of inflation I guess or there is a really good bot out there which is picking up all rares. Which would explain why exalts are 70:1 in standard / warbands and 40:1 or so in tempest.

Personally I think both ratios are ridiculous. When I started playing the ratio was 24:1 or so and 20:1 in hardcore.

Especially for what an exalted orb does. GGG is kind of limiting exalts to be used on the best gear for a chance to make it better.

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WiseGuard написал:

This exalt crap got pretty retarded.

Was planning to roll RF build on WB. Had to buy Koam's. And you know what? 6 exalts minimum.
Everyone wants pure currency.

WB being lackluster, coupled with this crap, just drove me into "Fuck no" state.
Sold my 2 exalts for 140 chaos, will buy cheap WB uniques and rolled back to standard.

There's no fun or challenge being handicapped.

I said in an earlier post you kind of have to make your character with sub optimal gear but that still has 1-3 good rolls. Make use of the masters you have, level Haku and Elreon (Elreon for ring resists craft Haku for armor).

You can get rares with +80-100 life pretty cheaply. It's just that some uniques are vastly overpriced to the point that I'd rather get a rare with nice rolls instead.

Make a build that can work in endgame maps with 10-20 chaos worth of gear (since you likely obtain that amount in currency anyway leveling 1-65) in endgame which you can later upgrade with some really strong uniques.

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Sogolon написал:

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WiseGuard написал:

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I said in an earlier post you kind of have to make your character with sub optimal gear but that still has 1-3 good rolls. Make use of the masters you have, level Haku and Elreon (Elreon for ring resists craft Haku for armor).

You can get rares with +80-100 life pretty cheaply. It's just that some uniques are vastly overpriced to the point that I'd rather get a rare with nice rolls instead.

Make a build that can work in endgame maps with 10-20 chaos worth of gear (since you likely obtain that amount in currency anyway leveling 1-65) in endgame which you can later upgrade with some really strong uniques.

Thing is, i have lvl 86 1h + shield tanky marauder on WB. It's good for farming and etc.

But frankly - screw it. I WANT to play RF build NOW, not farm for single unique.

Funiest thing, i have Rise of Pheonix, Dorianys Catalyst, Koam's Heart and some nice hp + ress items collecting dust in my standard tab, where i have crap ton of currency.

It's just so frustrating to farm for a gear i already have, whilst playing PoE 8 hrs a week.

Sorry for the rant, just a bit frustrated about WB in general and regretting time i wasted there.

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Heli0nix написал:

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Today, you cannot even find an Exalt.

I don't know for standard league but i've never find so many exalt like now in warbands.
Even in closed bêta ( the 2013 one ).

I'm maybe ultra lucky ^^ 17 dropped for me atm.

Unbelievable. Praise RNGesus. Have you like leveled 2 characters to 100?

I have seen one in warbands, and 8 total... in 4 YEARS of poe. Easily 5k+ hours

I don't like the idea of a chaos<->exalt npc, it seems cheap to me. The fact that the "market" balances the ratios is fun.
Right now, the ratio ex:chaos is something like 1:51 on tempest, it's like that since a few days now. Usually on hardcore temp leagues, it's 1:30, 1:35.
Now is the ratio so screwed because there's a bigger demand for exalts or a because there's a smaller demand for chaos ?

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Unbelievable. Praise RNGesus. Have you like leveled 2 characters to 100?

I have seen one in warbands, and 8 total... in 4 YEARS of poe. Easily 5k+ hours

RNG can be really weird sometimes, I already played something like 10 days /played on tempest and never dropped a 5L (or 6L..), tonight I dropped 3 5L whites in like, 30 mins.

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Vamphyr написал:

2 Chaos = 1 Regal
2 Regal = 1 Blessed ( = 4 Chaos )
4 Blessed = 1 Divine ( = 16 Chaos )
4 Divine = 1 Exalted ( = 64 Chaos )

Why do we ever need Chaos:Regal conversion? Regals are farmed the same way as Chaoses do, only in higher maps (which are easily accessable now). You want chaos instead of regal? Just use any 60-74 lvl item in your Regal recipe.

I like your idea to be able to buy Exalted and Blessed orbs for other currency, and i think Regal orbs are fine there. I fell rates should be more like (1 Exalted) = (5 Divine) = (25 Blessed) = (50 regal), or maybe even more harsh. Maybe without Divine even, because you can get them by selling junk 6-links too.

But i believe players should able to obtain Exalteds and Blesseds not just with pure "world-drop" luck, but also intentionally, if they want it.

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Personally I think both ratios are ridiculous. When I started playing the ratio was 24:1 or so and 20:1 in hardcore.

Especially for what an exalted orb does. GGG is kind of limiting exalts to be used on the best gear for a chance to make it better.

Exalted orb before Forsaken Masters has ABSOLUTELY another value, than Exalted Orb after patch, where "Can have multiple mods" mod's price was changed.

Before Forsaken Masters, the only thing you could do with exalted, was "yolo-exalting" an item and pray to RNGesus for decent mod.
After Forsaken Masters, you can use just few exalteds (along with other currencies, of course) to craft yourself a powerful endgame item (usually weapon) from scratch. That's COMPLETELY another story, and THAT's why Exalted's price raised so high. And That's the main usage of Exalted orbs, not random "yolo-exalting" (no sane player does it).