Blade Fall need to be destroyed?

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Fluffy_Puppies написал:

No. If anything CoC needs to be removed from the game so casters can have nice things.

^ THIS!

Fuck CoC and let us play the game again!

A few things:
1. Bladefall is really good for single-target, but isn't that great for overall clear speed because of its slow cast speed and actually fairly small AoE if you use Conc Effect. That daid, it does still melt shit, so it's very safe, so that's not going to save it from a nerf.

2. Poison is what really makes it stupid for single-target, and poison is going to get nerfed for sure. Maybe only Bino's, but it's going to get nerfed.

3. I expect some tuning with traps in 2.2 as well, which contribute to the problem, especially with poison.

I have no opinion about BF+COC or BF+Poison, since i have not tried them..

But as a IW-non-crit-Bladefaller i have some opinions, still..

It's not as hilariusly strong as Incin+leech+anything used to be, mostly because of the slowish cast speed(and Echo), but stunlocking T5 exiles is still kinda meh(with a 5L and a level 19 gems).

That said, right now non-crit BF is kinda nice, because it allows different builds, i guess? Just like Incin used to be, there was the OP one(s) with block and then there was creative ones, like my Immortal Flesh, (nearly)always on Ruby/Topaz with Dreadarc(for flammability on hit) on offhand ones.. i really like when something is playable(under T12 maps that is) with allmost anything.. i guess the overall balance goes out of the window in here?

I'm all in for GGG to forget overall balance and focus to get the different types of damage on the same line, one by one: spells//bow attacks/attacks/Dot's..

Aand there's still a few left:
-explosive arrow
-caustic arrow
-Cyclone
-Spectral throw(still kinda bad, unless Coc)
-summoners

And it's pointless to go on because:

a. i'm drunk (sixpack and a bottle of wine allready gone, luckily i bought a second wine :D)
b. i am not a native english speaker/writer
c. this game is so complex that there will never be a perfect balance
d. that's why i like the game

One other thing: how i ended up using BF??

Well, i was living my buffed Spark dream and then i found BF by drop, for no reason i just toss it in and tested it... it was clear that my first 40 levels i was doing the wrong thing.

It was something like 3L Spark vs. 2L BF and there was no question about who was the winner (killer)

e: it was level 6(7?) 3L Spark vs level 1 2L BF

e2: and this would otherwise be ok, since the skills are very different, basically you aim the Spark&pray that it hits something and with BF you pray that monsters stay in the AoE... but when you can stunlock almost everything you hit is that an AoE skill anymore?

It needs to deal about 40% less damage and maybe increase the mana costs by 40%.

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Pilla написал:

It needs to deal about 40% less damage and maybe increase the mana costs by 40%.

Thank god you don't work for GGG it actually makes their balance team look decent compared to you.

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I_NO написал:

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Pilla написал:

It needs to deal about 40% less damage and maybe increase the mana costs by 40%.

Thank god you don't work for GGG it actually makes their balance team look decent compared to you.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1210219









This is just a repeat of the past. I finally caved in and gave bladefall and vortex a shot (was planning on doing it after a fire witch) and find this skill extermely refreshing and fun. I like stuff to die fast and take immense satisfaction in watching foes die left and right and now this pops up right as I started to feel the love again. Anything dealing with doing less damage always drives me nuts since it feels like CoC gets to do what I do as a caster alone ten fold.

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Pilla написал:

It needs to deal about 40% less damage and maybe increase the mana costs by 40%.

Can we make CoC proc 100% instead of 70% as well and give a gem that gives 200% more spell damage with a 400% mana multipler? Just to widen the gap further.

I do think Bladefall is rather strong, but I'm only just starting to play with it as I've mainly been playing with the new chaos skills. I currently have a bladefall trapper (only level 38) but have toyed with BF with other higher level shadows of mine. I agree with a lot of people though, its rather strong, but so are the chaos skills. I would suggest reducing the damage per volley further than 5% and stream lining the AoE so its a bit narrower, or cone the AoE, something to increase the skills required to use the spell.

P.s. For the love god, do something about the Shadows casting animation for Bladefall as well. Looks like he's just head banging ...

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I_NO написал:

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Pilla написал:

It needs to deal about 40% less damage and maybe increase the mana costs by 40%.

Thank god you don't work for GGG it actually makes their balance team look decent compared to you.

xD