Pohx: POE is now like D3, leveling is too easy, map system the same, most uniques sucks....

Except PoE is hardcore and challenging game. Not in any way casual or streamlined. It can be like that only for people who played the game for years and know everything about it.

Just take a look at this. How is this casual in any way? Easy for new players? Or look here? Do we still have a lot of different currency with different availability level? Just a few examples.

99% of people who complain that game is too easy don't play highest difficulty maps with multiple dangerous mods one them...Why? Because this is actually challenging even for Meta builds...So they refuse to challenge themselves while talking about lack of challenge...what kind of hypocricy is this?...

You won't ever consider other side's argumetns, because you are too dense for this. That's how it works when people argue - one side can just don't accept facts and will stick to their line whatever happens. You just need to open your eyes really. But this will happen only when you will realise it by yourself or in best case scenario when close friend will tell you this. Not gonna happen soon though.

Stop trying to say that PoE should have been Hell on Earth kind of game for literally few masochists who are for some reason would enjoy it. It never positioned itself as this kind of over the top game that doesn't make sense and would die in few days, because exactly 3 people who would like it won't be able to sustain it.

I have no idea why anyone would be interested in this person's opinion.

"

SunL4D2 написал:

Stop trying to say that PoE should have been Hell on Earth kind of game for literally few masochists who are for some reason would enjoy it. It never positioned itself as this kind of over the top game that doesn't make sense and would die in few days, because exactly 3 people who would like it won't be able to sustain it.

Are you sure about that? I remember getting level 80 on HC in beta was quite an achievement. And attempting endgame bosses like Shrine and Crematorium was bordering on suicide. Quite a few more than 3 people played that.

Still not shure how people can say its like d3.
Shure they share some (or more) mechanics lately, buuuut am i the only one, who plays poe because of its great flexibility in skilltree, skills, classes, crafting etc,? you can build so many fun builds and in d3 its just stupid skills you can click after you reach level x.
and in the end? well, d2 which everybody says its the best game, was always just a big grind. so? thats what it is, thats whats this game is about right?

Despite, whatever others say, playing this game for about three years now, and i still LOVE to play it.

"

grepman написал:

"

You did call 'em "sellouts" directly and "liars" in a roundabout way, though.

there is no roundabout way about 'sellouts'- again, definition of a sellout is someone who makes the product catering to a wide audience after it was a niche product.

Dude, you're literally wrong. The definition of a sellout is "a betrayal of one's principles for reasons of expedience". Catering to a wider audience is not being a sellout unless you originally stated as a core principle that you would never cater to a wider audience (which, uh, why would any self-respecting _business_ do that?)

"

grepman написал:

...

How am I being selfish? I at least try to take other people's circumstances into account (even yours to a degree), instead of saying "fuck this, fuck that and fuck you too etc."

Fret not though, I finally got it, I think. You're the kind of person, who'd rather see the thing they love wither and die, rather than deviate from some perfect mental image they have. Which is a bizarre stance to take on a commercial product, but whatever.

All in all, having conversation with you is quite an unpleasant experience, so I shall bail. Have a nice enough day.

PS. Your understanding of "moving the goalposts" is wrong. The phrase you're looking for is "shifting the focus". Even using something as mundane as "changing the subject" would be more appropriate for the situation. Doesn't have the same ring to it, of course.

Pretty sure the same statement comes off Etup and dev would take it more seriously. Or not.
They never gave a shit about the multiple Kripp's warning about PoE becoming boring.

Who is Etup?

This whole thread is one long facepalm. Comparing PoE to D3 is so 2014.

Whiteknights don't understand what 'POE is now like D3' means it seems.
Guess that's why they're whiteknights to begin with.