Crit Multiplier + Diamond Flask (still) too powerful

I want to add that removing flasks from the game would benefit balance since people have to rely on passives, gear and skill again for getting critical strike chance.

Players are now able to rely heavily on those flasks, pumping up there critical strike multiplier because there crit chance is already 100%. Especially in PvP this is a balance issue. Players with builds that do not rely on flasks clearly don't have an answer for this except maybe use a granite flask...

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lethal_papercut написал:

People like high DPS & currently the only way to compete in that regard is to have a Diamond Flask build.

Flat out incorrect.

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SL4Y3R написал:

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lethal_papercut написал:

People like high DPS & currently the only way to compete in that regard is to have a Diamond Flask build.

Flat out incorrect.

i used to do 22k with RT before i specced into the diamond flask build, and i did that just for the laughs, with RT it went almost exactly the same.

The only way to compete, is to make a proper build and get proper gear.

I'm pretty sure that if Slayer can design a crit chance build that dishes out reliably high dps, and I'm confident in my own build, then I'm also fairly confident that diamond flasks are not the only way to deal high dps with crits.

Crits aside, there's also chaining split arrow / ethereal knives / lightning arrow, ele shot with whatever the hell it wants (because I've grown to believe it is the best skill in the game), gs/ls is still around, just not the flavor of the month any more, ci+gr+br flicker strike (though it's horrible at aoe, just good at survival because it's always moving to where the attacks aren't)... the list goes on.

I return to my original point, just stated differently this time: people are emotionally attached to the idea that they need to run diamond flasks, and that they are the only way to achieve high dps. We have a diverse skill tree for a reason, learn to use it, and failing that it is (so far) your own fault that you believe diamonds are so op.

my diamond flask build accidently has like 25% chance to crit so honestly im probably just gonna sup a crit chance gem for farming and get crits like 40% of the time without diamond flask. basically i am maxed crit multi AND i have 40% crit chance if i use the support gem.

granted i will be a very high level before i max out all my crit multi.

i think one thing people overlook is that the game only really goes to like lvl 65 right now it seems people are running lvl 60 maps with their lvl 75 diamond flask ranger and being like OMGZ TOO EASY. well i mean wait until these crits actually dont kill everything in 1 hit and it takes 2 flasks to off the whole group and now is it really helpful to carry 5 diamonds?

i feel like everyone is copying someones not that good diamond build. i cant really find this build that gives you 0% crit chance but it doesnt sound like people are working too hard to think about their build

I think people who worry about flasks actually do know how to use the tree, maybe that is why they say it.

If you have a diamond flask you will simply have 100% crit chance so you can focus heavily on crit multiplier passives.

Resulting in 100% chance of doing 999% damage :D

i also feel like people dont realise that 10% more damage increases your damage exactly as much as 10% crit multiplier IF you have 100% crit chance :D

Again. Incorrect.

There are two main crit.multi circles. One in ranger. One in witch. For a witch to reah the ranger.one. it is incredibly investment heavy. By going that route, you will be sacrificing things like cast speed.

Ranger is the same way. The only class that can make use of both circles is Shadow. However, they will be very mana starved and cast starved. This is a diamond build. Weak as hell in the long run. If they wish to build some OMG high damage build, go for it. Since it will either be screwed if they miss a shot, from having lowana regen, or it is a single target damage build .

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SL4Y3R написал:

Again. In correct.

There are to main crit.multi circles. One in ranger. One in witch. For a witch to reah the ranger.one. it is incredibly investment heavy. By going that route, you will be sacrificing things like cast speed.

Ranger is the same way. The only class that can make use of both circles is Shadow. However, they will be very mana starved and cast starved. This is a diamond build. Weak as hell in the long run. If they wish to build some OMG high damage build, go for it. Since it will either be screwed if they miss a shot, from having lowana regen, or it is a single target damage build .

There will be no long run if somebody warps to you and puts 999% damage on your nose.

Actually. There is. Since dmg is reduced.by 93%

So they HAVE to 1 shot me in each round. Or, they run out of flasks.

Also, this game isn't balanced around PvP