the biggest "LIE" of this game...

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I would say there is build diversity, just no build balance.


I mainly play HC/nemesis so my builds have to be strong to survive. These are characters I've made(in HC/nem) that have been successful and have decent clearing speed(in maps):

- 5 aura EKer
- Arctic armor + MoM firetrapper(my fastest clearer)
- Spectral throw ranger
- Aura stacking elemental wander
- Cyclone cast on crit
- Infernal blow max block tank
- LA acrobatics/crit build
- Iron will freeze pulser
- Righteous fire build
- Stunlock heavystrike/groundslam maur.

All of these builds have advantages and disadvantages. I consider all of these very powerful with some having higher DPS(firetrapper/wander) while others being more tanky(max block IB, 5 aura Eker). Stunlocker was definitely the best vs bosses.

This is just a small example of the overall viable and powerful builds in the game. They all vary greatly in both required gear and playstyle.I plan to play even more builds in the upcoming league.
Последняя редакция: kasub#2910. Время: 28 янв. 2014 г., 17:54:07
So blinded, I have several chars with several builds I decided on from the start and stuck to it. The point of the game which I believe the OP missed is, your first char is meant to go 'bugger.' and make some mistakes. That same char, in my case, also picked up a lot of loot which helped go toward my next few chars builds. I never went 'uh this gear is great, better work around it.' I went 'This is the build I want, I will play, roll orbs, trade for it and see what happens.'

If you are so bitter with the game, why are you still here? I have the feeling you want to play the game but also troll for a bit. If you really hate the game, move on? But I have a feeling you won't and will continue to reply to this.
If GGG chickens made an action RPG, what would it be called? Path of Eggxile, a Peck 'n' Slash RPG.
Why was the helmet spluttering? It was a coif.
Последняя редакция: Hyaon#5489. Время: 28 янв. 2014 г., 17:09:51
You are wrong.
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ToxicRatt написал:

Exactly. :) Fanboy's blinded by the money they spent. Not all supporters are this way though.


I agree. I thought Charan was a huge fanboy at first, however the more of his responses I read over time showed me that he was very opinionated about the game as well. The difference at first was that his views were different than mine because of the different stages of the game we're both at. Which is understandable, no doubt.

I didn't like the guy much at all, still not the #1 fan like some people here but I do enjoy reading a lot of his comments now.
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It would be wonderful if we could have a rational discussion about the points that the OP brings up, but that will never happen. I happen to agree with some of the things he says, but he's taken such a black/white attitude that there's no reason to even try to find out why he feels like he does, or to try to explain his errors.


The things you speak of are by design, and GGG refuses to change that design, therefore any discussion about it is irrelevant since it will not change anything.

Not trying to be a prick here, but imo this is just the way it is. The suggestions forums are filled with solutions and some get implemented. But the problems described here are caused by moving the "hardcore" game to the earliest parts of the game, instead of locating it at the lvl 75+ mark.

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There is build diversity. The problem is that the game punishes builds that are less effective than others rather than reward those that are better.


This is purely by design. It's all about the loot in an ARPG, how do you acquire loot in PoE?

MF build
Killspeed build
party up and divide task's
repetition and trade

And people will in 90% of the cases compare there own experience with somebody else in order to conclude just "how much fun" they are having.

If loot was plentiful before "endgame" the game would be fun for a lot more people then it currently is. It would also not effect the "hardcore endgame" that is in place.

This is overly simplistic but maybe you understand what i am trying to say :).
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
well OP is fucking right like shit..

i have my LS (yeah thats lithning strike some old mythologic build from antient times with dinosaurs and all the shit) max phys/spell block shit life shit armor super fucking laser shit super gear dependant lS strika..

this shit works after 9 months of lots of playing.. well and with the post 1.0 nemesis price-explosion shit i couldnt fucking ever do another high fly build..

well my build works super cooky laser cutting with be-stoned-like-shit-and-your-hp-bar-wondt ever-move stuff and because the came is so boring right now i didnt play it for a month or so (after getting butt-raped by this shit shit fucking super overpowered nazi alien stasi stalin torture chamber boss.. wich some very sadistic ####### ("""not so nice and of course not sadistic not human hating beast""""))

"well if u dondt allready have the shit in your stash than u r fucked" => thats the essence of poe at the moment


and all semi-zombie-psycho-analytic shit like "meheheheh mf build is not so laser blabla.." ..fuck it ;)
Последняя редакция: krassi3000#2469. Время: 28 янв. 2014 г., 17:25:24
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well OP is fucking right like shit..

i have my LS (yeah thats lithning strike some old mythologic build from antient times with dinosaurs and all the shit) max phys/spell block shit life shit armor super fucking laser shit super gear dependant lS strika..

this shit works after 9 months of lots of playing.. well and with the post 1.0 nemesis price-explosion shit i couldnt fucking ever do another high fly build..

well my build works super cooky laser cutting with be-stoned-like-shit-and-your-hp-bar-wondt ever-move stuff and because the came is so boring right now i didnt play it for a month or so (after getting butt-raped by this shit shit fucking super overpowered nazi alien stasi stalin torture chamber boss.. wich some very sadistic ####### ("""not so nice and of course not sadistic not human hating beast""""))

"well if u dondt allready have the shit in your stash than u r fucked" => thats the essence of poe at the moment


and all semi-zombie-psycho-analytic shit like "meheheheh mf build is not so laser blabla.." ..fuck it ;)


Lol
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
Can we talk about diversity?

I talked with now 7 people that use 1hand + shield endurance charge on melee stun. 3 of them use ground slam like me but we all have different builds. We share some key notes ofc but other than that we took different approaches. So I think thats pretty amazing.

What diversity are you expecting? And please no path of life nodes. D2 was about getting the requirements you need for your spec and pump everything else into stamina as far as I remember.
Why you should try Harcore http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/209310/page/1
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krassi3000 написал:
well OP is fucking right like shit..

i have my LS (yeah thats lithning strike some old mythologic build from antient times with dinosaurs and all the shit) max phys/spell block shit life shit armor super fucking laser shit super gear dependant lS strika..

this shit works after 9 months of lots of playing.. well and with the post 1.0 nemesis price-explosion shit i couldnt fucking ever do another high fly build..

well my build works super cooky laser cutting with be-stoned-like-shit-and-your-hp-bar-wondt ever-move stuff and because the came is so boring right now i didnt play it for a month or so (after getting butt-raped by this shit shit fucking super overpowered nazi alien stasi stalin torture chamber boss.. wich some very sadistic ####### ("""not so nice and of course not sadistic not human hating beast""""))

"well if u dondt allready have the shit in your stash than u r fucked" => thats the essence of poe at the moment


and all semi-zombie-psycho-analytic shit like "meheheheh mf build is not so laser blabla.." ..fuck it ;)


post of the year 2014
What the fuck is "build diversity" if path of exile = no build diversity.

Please name me a game with "build diversity" if the amount of builds compared to path of exile is "none at all."

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