RIP Facebreaker, RIP! Chris joke or just hate FB?

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Emphasy написал:

They only nerfed I think one or two Melee Physical Nodes, which isn't too bad. I'm not sure about the general nerf to survivability, but that does not only affect facebreaker.

The shadow-area seems like a really nice start for FB now, exspecially since you can get Mana-Leech there too and considering the reduced Mana-Costs that might make it possible to sustain FB just with that not requiring the BM-Gem anymore. There is also the possibility to go CI with FB paired with decent Armor that could work well too.

However the new Tree and the change to Life-Nodes might require a different take on FB-Builds. Meginords is even stronger now for them, BoR however might not be that nice anymore, because Belly would not only offer the possibility for a 6l but also a big HP-Boost and a rare chest would allow a Flat Physical Modifier to be placed on it.

I'm also not so sure if the Unique Shields are that good anymore considering that lack certain stats and again can't get a Flat Phys roll. They might still be very nice for certain situations like Saffels for Heavy Spelldamage but for most situations you might want a basic rare shield with good rolls.

Marauder area got hard nerf, thats sooo bad for old fb users, duelist was good when get acces to the mara area, now its not worth it at all.
New shadow got rly great buff and fine to start as fb build, but still nerf fb node was not right from start, special if we see full cartoon and check how good they buff daggers and stuff, its even more OP now, but fb got nerf in same time, i can feel OP when they do some ninja hate at fb users, but fb users still belive in ggg.

We will see, but im sure its nerf and we wont see any good changes for fb, haters gonna nerf fb soon even more, belive me, ggg shit on fb and on fb users and they fine, okay.

I have a feeling this helpmegod guy has multiple accounts according to the english some of these people speaking.

So my babies will be in my stash until, maybe, the next patch. Or maybe forever, depends of GGG.

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robotamen написал:

So my babies

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will be in my stash until, maybe, the next patch. Or maybe forever, depends of GGG.

Just sell them, ggg never gonna change their mind over OP shit as ST/Crits vs trash FB RT.

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saridonas написал:

Better cry before we know all patch nodes

Dat chris omg such a hater !!!

Now seriously more i read these forums i feel like its lol community not old poe community ;[

Problem is, most people don't see/understand the whole picture. They see some nodes have lower numbers and start crying imediately without considering other changes that play a part.

Those people generally have to wait for People who actually understand all the mechanics to do the math for them.

It was like that with the last expansion too and most people got buffs or even big buffs out of it. The tree is meaningless without the patch notes.

There's a LOT more physical damage on the tree for facebreakers.

No nerfing Facebreaker plox. It's probably one of the true uniques out there.

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CrimsonMidget написал:

There's a lot more physical damage on the tree for facebreakers.

But to access them you must spend much more points, take less armour, take less life and res, take less attack speed, etc.

They made NEW start location for FB builds, that rly long away from other FB start locations (like Mara/Duel) and ggg nerf old start locations fb nodes.

SO its nerf!

Maybe it really got nerfed. So what? Many builds will be nerfed/changed with this expansion.

My fb character got buffed.

Well I remember the first comments on CoE when it was implemented... then someone made a build using it (I think he bought it for 4 or 5 ex, because the guy dropping it didn't see the potential).

I also remember people complaining about the Aura-Changes.

FB builds got hit by some general nerfs to life and max-resist, which is true for a lot of builds, but since they can still access a shield shouldn't be too bad. Exspecially with legacy Facebreakers you should be able to still maintain a healthy balance. The problem with Facebreaker is that it is melee without access to some of the screen-clear skills.

My suggestion would be make Groundslam useable with bare hands... I mean really they can punch that hard :P

Depending on how Herald of XYZ works this patch might even be a huge buff to the general power of FB-Builds, basically because all the nerfs to FB are on the defensive side and apply to basically all Melee-Builds and even a lot of ranged builds. If those changes are one step towards readjusting damage (exspecially elemental damage) from mobs, it isn't a nerf at all.

So what FB lacks is a good skill to clear bigger areas (I know you can use Cyclone... but its a bit... mäh) and a good movement-skill.

Just implement a skill Tumble that makes a short dodge roll which grants 25% chance to dodge while being performed and 20% Movespeed for 2 seconds afterwards, which can be consumed for 10% more damage on one skill (so you either have 20% increased movespeed or you can consume that buff by using a skill that does 10% more damage). Leveling Tumble gives it increased Attackspeed which makes the roll quicker. This would be better than reimplementing Phase Run which had terrible mechanics and would allow Builds without access to Whirling Blades (or Leapslam) to have something to dodge stuff like Vaal Smash without having to rely on normal movement.