What is your honest opniion about Grim Dawn compared to POE?

They actually increased the difficulty of Veteran recently. Talking out of experience I don't find game hard, but it's not a walk in the park either.

The feeling of the game being easy may come out of people who got used to PoE oneshot mechanics, which are not present in GD. If we exclude the forced difficulty in PoE (oneshots, difficulty walls through poor itemization and lack of drops) , it's not a hard game either.

I'm going to repeat myself but the difficulty is very item based. If your gear is crap, which it will be the first time you play, you will get wrecked soon in veteran difficulty. You don't get killed in one shot, you get killed in 25 simultaneous shots.

Played TQ for years, sunk about 500 hours into GD and still going. Its just my kinda ARPG.

The skill system and crafting is amazing. Itemization is amazing.

And its only in ALPHA.

But these are my tastes when it comes to ARPG's. I would recommend any ARPG fan give it a try.

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torturo написал:

They actually increased the difficulty of Veteran recently. Talking out of experience I don't find game hard, but it's not a walk in the park either.

The feeling of the game being easy may come out of people who got used to PoE oneshot mechanics, which are not present in GD. If we exclude the forced difficulty in PoE (oneshots, difficulty walls through poor itemization and lack of drops) , it's not a hard game either.

Yea the difficulty curve is done quite well. The endgame dungeon (Steps of Torment) can be a real bitch though..

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patlefort3 написал:

I'm going to repeat myself but the difficulty is very item based. If your gear is crap, which it will be the first time you play, you will get wrecked soon in veteran difficulty. You don't get killed in one shot, you get killed in 25 simultaneous shots.

I don't find it like this at all. Build mistakes and stat point mistakes are the big killers which is the mistakes you are likely to make on your first play through.

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OssanTensa написал:

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patlefort3 написал:

I'm going to repeat myself but the difficulty is very item based. If your gear is crap, which it will be the first time you play, you will get wrecked soon in veteran difficulty. You don't get killed in one shot, you get killed in 25 simultaneous shots.

I don't find it like this at all. Build mistakes and stat point mistakes are the big killers which is the mistakes you are likely to make on your first play through.

Most of your defense come from your gear. You could easily go from 3k to 6k hp with full resists and defensive ability. I've seen piece of gear with over 400hp on them. You could easily double or triple your dps too, from gear alone. I got wrecked the first time in veteran SoT. I farmed some gear and now I just kill bosses in a few seconds. My gear is still far from the best.

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Denezen написал:

Gets no updates? What on earth are you talking about? I have to assume you're exaggeratng for effect.. The game is being updated and the dev team provides updates in the form of the Grim Misadventures posts every second Monday on their forums.

Because the team is so small, the development is just extremely slow

Well I did exaggerate but I have also tried the game and it's on the same level it was 2 years ago when Krip was playing it.. Do you disagree about that.. POE had more devs when it started? I don't remember that being true and my experience with this kind of development is that the game will either not release or it will release in a half finished stage . The posts will stay and we can resume when and if this is actually released:)

ps:oh my first double post. Claps slowly

From what you're saying its doesn't sound like you're up to date with GD's development at all..

As long as GGG had more than 5 people in house working on POE in the early stages, then yes, they had more people than Crate did when they started to develop for Grim Dawn. They only have 7 people working actively on the game now after these past years of development.
How many does GGG have now.. 30?40? Even if they only had 20 that's still 3 times the amount that Crate has at their disposal.

The game will release.. and it won't be in a half finished state, any more than POE is. I mean you say that stuff about GD.. lets talk about POE. Where is the trade system - will there ever be one? Act 4 still not released how many years after it went live? Desync seems it will never be fixed..

I'm not saying that POE is "half done" but its unfair to claim that GD will be as well.. they have a full game there. once they release legendary weapons and another class or two, you will easily have a full game where you can level your toon up to 80+

Also for the record, you guys saying that you can't be one shot, think again.

I've been one shot at least 3-4 times at various points in the game.

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sanleon написал:

100h in grim dawn. 2700h in poe


Anyways, in grim dawn you can cheat and dupe all items. So expect 100h max


I regret buying it a lot

Annnnd you can't cheat in POE?

I fail to see how this could be a knock against the game..

you can't dupe items (without a mirror)

I see some point in this, in Torchlight 2 once I found cheating it became dull.
Hadn't given GD a look before, will have to check it out when Steam sale