Divination Cards -- Balance Lost.

Comments from Wabachaw and ProjectPT on the issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax0hwZZw4AI
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsCMSEyspZc

I've mostly wrapped up the challenges this league and two of the ones I decided I wouldn't go after at all were divination cards and grinding bosses. However, just for the hell of it. I thought, let me look at the card sets.

It seemed reasonable enough. Let us set out to farm these cards without buying them and see how it goes.

Piles and piles of maps later; I had almost nothing to show for my work besides a whole lot of wasted time. I was left wondering why anyone wouldn't just do higher level content and actually have some fun while earning enough wealth from those drops to just buy the damn item, usually in far less time.

I am not the intended audience for divination cards but I do wonder who is. I imagine solo self found players have no choice but to use them.

Oh woe onto them.

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Phrazz написал:

Mathil Agrees

I'm not going to profile myself as a big Mathil viewer, but as I see it, he plays A LOT - and not even he can farm ONE card of certain decks. I don't even know what to say about that, really.

I only know of him because people talk about him but he echos the main theme of this thread really well (was waiting to get credited lol). Its not that the cards are hard to farm its that some of them seem nearly impossible to farm and they should be balanced better.

He brings up the Lucky Deck, as I mentioned in the OP in this thread. How many of you, like him and I, saw this set and thought it would be fun to gamble on it and spent time farming T7s since its addition? How many of you, like him and I, stopped shortly thereafter without finding a single card? How many of you, like him and I, have seen the posts and messages from people about trying to farm this card. Its not realistic -- which is upsetting and discouraging.

Its not that sets like this shouldn't be hard to complete, or that you shouldn't have to grind to get some of them, its that most of the decent ones are currently too hard to complete. If you take the time to run 50 or 100 T7s you should feel like you made some progress towards your goal. Same with the brittle emperor. It shouldn't be as common as it is for people to complete 1,200 kills without getting a single card. That's a major commitment.

He also points out that we have been "flooded" by the cards. This is something GGG does with uniques too. Good or bad might be a discussion for another thread, but it does impact how we perceive the cards. There are just so many of them that it seems even harder to find the ones you want.

drops are balanced around bots

sc realms are floaded with ...buddy and ... hud if a legit player would have the chance to collect a full set on his own the bot community had farmed 50 during the same time destroying the market
lets take hunters resolve(taming ring..yeah many of you dont know) i never ever found one and it drops in grotto...come on


ggg does an awesome job hidding that they have a 3rd party problem they fight every post thats comes up and points in that direction

cant wait for the unicorn whiteknight posts

You can't farm div cards.
You have to buy them from lottery winners.

What???... I thought PoE was an arpg. Now GGG wants to make PoE be this:

I've always known that divination cards didn't drop often enough to acquire very many full sets for the non-time grinders but running the same zone/map 100s of times (or the extreme wrongness of having to make 5K to 8K runs) is just so insane for all but the no-lifers PoE unlimited time players (we must be careful not to incur the probation wrath of the forum moderators) that I just don't see why the bar is set this extremely high. But this is GGGs arpg baby and the 1% need something to fill up their days on earth and GGG is very happy to accommodate their wishes at the expense of the rest of us with jobs, families, and real lives that take up 80% to 90% of our week.

Hey GGG, not all who like to play PoE can devote 4+ hours every day to playing. Many weeks I'm lucky if I can get in 15 to 20 hours of PoE. If a set takes 1000s of hours to acquire then that card deck is stacked against us.

I know there is no way to ever get a better balance between massive time grind for a full set of DCs and making the task trivial for the 12+ hour a day players but right now the DC drops are not good and an overhaul of them is needed and many of the junk ones need to be thrown out.