is The Shaper a fair fight? discussion

Don't they always overtune bosses when they first release them?
I wonder how life builds would fight there :)

One thing to note, it is possible that shaper deals non of the existing damage type, just deals some percentage of your life pool (might be different for es). The reason I brought this up, when i fought "kole" in tower map he was shaped into that void thing and did all according void stuff, then i stood at his void vortex and looked at degen pictogram- there was no damage type shown, only "...you take damage...". If that is the case it is very possible to do him with most builds (regen builds are preferred).
Последняя редакция: Andrius319#4787. Время: 6 сент. 2016 г., 18:39:33
Why are people who will never see this boss complaining about it?
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RandallPOE написал:
Why are people who will never see this boss complaining about it?


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Kasapnica написал:
I honestly no longer understand what "melee" stands for in this game,i feel like every one has his definition,half of the player base is like "if it hits more than 1 target,its ranged",the other half is like"if the skill reads melee,its melee".

No wonder GGG can't balance it. I guess that guy with 15k ES should be considered melee,since he's in the boss $%^ all the time but im honestly lost...but hey,i play EQ so im in the range,OP club ?


It's meant to imply the range of a skill and in the case of labeling something 'melee' it means using a skill that affects a small radius centered around the player requiring them to be close to a monster.
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johnKeys написал:
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I_NO написал:
For melee? Fuck no hahahah


recent video is Ancestral Warchief. a Totems build.
these type of builds are usually very safe. I know because I beat Izaro with one. undergeared, underleveled, terrible DPS, in HC.
so Totem builds are great.
and he has good DPS too. makes quick work of the entry bosses.

the teleport is just stupid, really. Malachai at least has some delay and warning when he does that. Shaper is just 10ms and boom you are dead.

the rest of his attacks are semi bullet hell, and the laser is actually the most fair of the lot, while still being a one shot to .... anyone in Wraeclast really.



thats exact what i think, the "teleport to death" is a bit hard and the "purple one shot bubbles" are ok until u can hide in zana and dont let his vortex cover her safe bubble.

for the question how a "real" melee should do this fight... i have no idea, imo its only possible with ranged or mid range because its very hrad to dodge if you are in ur attack animation.

would be very cool to know the dmg type, but i think its chaos or all others together. and i think also that the bubbles during the zana cover phase are always one shot, no matter how good ur defense is

last thing, was it my video u saw :D ?
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Well, if we take GGG's word for it, melee got buffed.

What we can deduce from this is that melee will never see this boss and as a result won't have to die or pay big $$$ to try it.

Melee be sitting on all them exalts while rangers go find them loots.

\o/ Now go fetch me that 2h blade, ranged brethren, so i can smack me some good old fashioned low content.

Peace,

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AkuTenshiiZero написал:
I've long suspected that the bosses in this game are designed to be "really, really cool." In that 12-year-old mentality of sheer power = coolness. This is game design by an egomaniac who wants you to be super impressed. This is the level of shit that results in unfair rom hacks that serve only to give the creator a self-congratulatory stiffy and satiate the masochistic streak of a few lunatics.

This game is not and never was designed for anyone but Chris Wilson.
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Does GGG people even test these things before they release them?
Wonder if GGG can even do this fight with normal stuff

Most bosses are just a spam fest of die go back in hit as much as you can die repeat
Cause the only way to kill the boss at its own level would be to cheat lol

Doing a boss 20 lvls over its lvl should be easy and also not worth doing but you have to on this game unless you want spam fest

Im still waiting to see someone from GGG do act 4 deathless on a "normal" char
Последняя редакция: Lynerus#6363. Время: 6 сент. 2016 г., 20:41:44
Does the big laser even have any indication of when he is going to cast it?
I feel there is no indication and not enough time to move out of the way.

Either you were moving anyway and dodge it, or you were standing still an are petty much dead.

If there is no real indication, the fight is complete utter shit. This isn't even challenging.

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