Blade Vortex vs Shaper (Guess who was utterly destroyed in that fight?)

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I_NO написал:
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k4n3 написал:
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I_NO написал:


VP is fine quit it.


that's the most substantiated argument you will ever see from I_NO.
not sure why it lacks her usual 'fucks' or 'fuckings' here and there which would make it even stronger and convincing.


Do end game then talk to me thanks.


you are funny. what my doing or not doing endgame has to do with you actually presenting good arugments for not changing or removing VP?

I am on neither side of the discussion. I just pointed out that just stating that something is fine is not an argument.



"How come only evil forces were released?" - "Because there are no good forces."
"So, then. You don't believe that there is a God." - "There was a god."
"Well, then. Where is he now?" - "I killed him," said Kane.
Sorry you have no opinion if you no experience.

Thanks.

Dys an sohm
Rohs an kyn
Sahl djahs afah
Mah morn narr
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I_NO написал:
you have no opinion if you no experience.
That is a blatant lie but you probably knew it already when you posted it (c)GGG
And worst change is putting almost all bosses in new version of maps into fucking small areas, where you can't kite well or dodge stuff. What a terrible idiot invented that I want say to him: dude flick you, seriously flick you very much.
Is pathfinder op?
Is BV op?
Is instant leech op?

If you play as pathfnder/BV/instant leech character then No. If you play different build then yes.
"Is there such a thing as an absolute, timeless enemy? There is no such thing, and never has been. And the reason
is that our enemies are human beings like us. They can only be our enemies in relative terms."
Последняя редакция: kamil1210#5432. Время: 16 сент. 2016 г., 02:56:51
People saying that it's about Vaal Pact make me cringe so hard...

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kamil1210 написал:
Is pathfinder op?
Is BV op?
Is instant leech op?

If you play as pathfnder/BV/instant leech character then No. If you play different build then yes.

I guess this is why...oh, wait you actually trolling :P I almoust got this bait lol
Последняя редакция: SunL4D2#6224. Время: 16 сент. 2016 г., 03:11:46
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I_NO написал:
Sorry you have no opinion if you no experience.

Thanks.



you are completely missing the point.

it's not my opinion that is being discussed here. it's yours.

it is you who said VP is fine without giving any arguements why it is so.
I and perhaps others would like to hear from you WHY VP is fine.

and it's quite presumptuous of you to assume i have no experience when you know nothing about me.

btw, i can have an opinion on anything even if i have no experience, you know, and it doesn't depend on your whims. another issue is if my opinion is based on facts or not. but that's not the topic of the discussion here.
"How come only evil forces were released?" - "Because there are no good forces."
"So, then. You don't believe that there is a God." - "There was a god."
"Well, then. Where is he now?" - "I killed him," said Kane.
Последняя редакция: k4n3#0976. Время: 16 сент. 2016 г., 03:29:42
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k4n3 написал:
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I_NO написал:
Sorry you have no opinion if you no experience.

Thanks.



you are completely missing the point.

it's not my opinion that is being discussed here. it's yours.

it is you who said VP is fine without giving any arguements why it is so.
I and perhaps others would like to hear from you WHY VP is fine.

and it's quite presumptuous of you to assume i have no experience when you know nothing about me.

btw, i can have an opinion on anything even if i have no experience, you know, and it doesn't depend on your whims. another issue is if my opinion is based on facts or not. but that's not the topic of the discussion here.


I don't have to give an opinion because you're the minorty unless you get a mysterious large amount of complaints about VP it's not going to be touched. Tell if it was ''OP'' why wouldn't we see more of it hm? There's several threads about BV or past skills CoC incinerate etc yet nothing about VP.

In short there not going to fuck with it because in most cases the majority think it's fine if there's no complaints except for one or two maybe compared to incinerate etc whatever the case is.

Also I've already researched you pretty easily supfreshturnbaby cy@ no experience ty ty
Dys an sohm
Rohs an kyn
Sahl djahs afah
Mah morn narr
Последняя редакция: Coconutdoggy#1805. Время: 16 сент. 2016 г., 03:37:43
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sidtherat написал:
with instant leech people do not really need to worry about defences. the Sponge build is just that - buffer + instant leech

and the only way to kill The Sponge is one-shot of absurd proportions. we do like one-shots dont we?

one-shot meta is a product of vaal pact being in the game. try to replicate tanking Shaper without instant leech.

if we nerf BV we will get yet another meta skill with no-brain needed and all the damage in the world. and it will be the same.

kill Vaal Pact. kill it with fire. it would open SO MANY currently impossible gamedesign spaces.. and free us from the bullshit we've all just seen linked in the OP.

you can replicate that with very fast attack skill (replacing BV), you can replicate it with enough leech from the tree/items (replacing Vinktars) but you cannot replicate it without vaal pact.


You absolutely can replicate it without vaal pact. There's instant leech from legacy vinktar, bloodseeker, and acuity (and you can do silly things like stack 100% life leech from berserker with acuity or bloodseeker). There's LGOH stacking with many triggers.

And, even more powerful but not meta yet, is the extreme health you can gain from zerphi's last breath builds (no leech required).
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I_NO написал:


I don't have to give an opinion because you're the minorty unless you get a mysterious large amount of complaints about VP it's not going to be touched. Tell if it was ''OP'' why wouldn't we see more of it hm? There's several threads about BV or past skills CoC incinerate etc yet nothing about VP.

In short there not going to fuck with it because in most cases the majority think it's fine if there's no complaints except for one or two maybe compared to incinerate etc whatever the case is.

Also I've already researched you pretty easily supfreshturnbaby cy@ no experience ty ty


you see, you can give some arguments to substatiate your claim after all.

anyway, again you must be pretty bad at research, if one can even call it a research, to conclude i have no experience. seems this kind of superficial elitist thinking is quite common amongst adolescents with their moronic semi-intelligible slang like 'supfreshturnbaby cy@ no experience ty ty'.
"How come only evil forces were released?" - "Because there are no good forces."
"So, then. You don't believe that there is a God." - "There was a god."
"Well, then. Where is he now?" - "I killed him," said Kane.
How about nerfing Ghost reaver instead of VP
Decrease life leech effectiveness for shields to make the character at least move sometimes and apply some def mechanics not just stand still pressing one single button.

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