NEED AUCTION HOUSE FFS

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nadakuu написал:
an auction house for bulk trade would be a welcome addition.
it would be nice to quickly trade for anything that goes in a specialty tab.
-Fragments, Currency , Maps


It wouldn't...the hysterics over flippers, price fixers and the exchange rates would be greatly exacerbated if GGG implemented an AH for any of it because it makes it so much easier for those sorts to manipulate it all further and far more, than without one.
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Both poe.trade and the official trade site have bulk purchasing options which work great.

https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285

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lagwin1980 написал:
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nadakuu написал:
an auction house for bulk trade would be a welcome addition.
it would be nice to quickly trade for anything that goes in a specialty tab.
-Fragments, Currency , Maps


It wouldn't...the hysterics over flippers, price fixers and the exchange rates would be greatly exacerbated if GGG implemented an AH for any of it because it makes it so much easier for those sorts to manipulate it all further and far more, than without one.


i realize this is an outcome , but it would also bottom out if everyone could do it.
The people who sit in their hideout with auto searching already do what you claim would happen anyways, it just opens up the field to more competition and the flipper would eventually give up as the market saturates.

at some point you have to consider if this is a trading simulator or an arpg.
content should not be locked behind whispering 20 people to play for 5 minutes.


- Allow us to place exiles in our hideouts and turn them into vendors.
- Ability to rename them to whatever
- The seller needs to be online for anyone to access their vendors
- Add an extra notice board in game that works the same as the trade site. Instead of 'whisper' a new button with 'visit hideout'


Nothing is instant, you still need to visit the hideout to get the item, only now your not interrupted mid map to sell something, or your not left hanging after whispering someone when your buying. While the buyer is there, they might find something else good on one of your vendors as they browse their inventory's, less junk around.

New Mtx; Increased vendor inventory size, different armors for your vendors to wear, more hideout stuff to mess around with, a reason to spruce up your hideout.
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Moose_Q написал:
- Allow us to place exiles in our hideouts and turn them into vendors.
- Ability to rename them to whatever
- The seller needs to be online for anyone to access their vendors
- Add an extra notice board in game that works the same as the trade site. Instead of 'whisper' a new button with 'visit hideout'


Nothing is instant, you still need to visit the hideout to get the item, only now your not interrupted mid map to sell something, or your not left hanging after whispering someone when your buying. While the buyer is there, they might find something else good on one of your vendors as they browse their inventory's, less junk around.

New Mtx; Increased vendor inventory size, different armors for your vendors to wear, more hideout stuff to mess around with, a reason to spruce up your hideout.

You suggestion would still make trade easier, which goes against GGG's design decisions about trade. It is not a matter of an Auction House or no Auction House, but about how easy it is to trade since that correlates directly with the amount of items traded.

Read GGG's Trade Manifesto (I posted a link earlier in the thread) for their (well though out I might say) reasoning.
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goetzjam написал:
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aphfid написал:


it seems to me the manifesto is trying to say "the players think they want an auction house, but they don't really, and they should just trust that we know better". maybe they are right and an auction house would change the dynamics in ways we don't like. the thing with 3 month leagues is that we start afresh every 3 months.






The thing is with leagues is they are the majority of players and a bad league can mean bad sales, bad retention and less likelyhood in some cases of players returning the very next league.

Furthermore, an AH isn't inline with the design that they are setting out to achieve, so just because you think you want something and you can say its only 3 months to try, doesn't mean its something they should do.

AH is a very divisive topic because quite a lot of people feel strongly one way or another about it, regardless I don't think it should or is ever going to happen, because quite frankly we already have easy access to trade through even an official site now.



I don't have some super amazing shop or flip shit and still doing decently myself:



a"bad league". auction house seems to be the single most requested feature and poor trading facilities the number one player gripe. i'm not closed to the possibility that auction house might change the dynamics in ways i can't see....i find it interesting that people are so opposed to even testing the idea...

as far as the GGG vision, that has no credibility now that tencent is the majority shareholder.
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nadakuu написал:
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lagwin1980 написал:
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nadakuu написал:

at some point you have to consider if this is a trading simulator or an arpg.
content should not be locked behind whispering 20 people to play for 5 minutes.




yep. spot on!
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nadakuu написал:
at some point you have to consider if this is a trading simulator or an arpg.
content should not be locked behind whispering 20 people to play for 5 minutes.




Very much this.

If GGG insists that trading be a core aspect of the game, then it needs to be accessible to everyone, not just to price fixers and the handful who know how to game the system.
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Cyzax написал:
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aphfid написал:
....some of it seems really awkward, like the author him/herself isn't sure what they're trying to say.

GGG are actually very clear on what they want... That trade must be limited so much that players will still find something themselves they can use, instead of just finding a much better item in an AH for 1 trans...

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this is so funny.

coz being a former programmer, nothing was more frustrating than fellow programmers who felt their own personal wants were more important than what the customer wants. and really, now that tencent are the majority shareholder, the "GGG vision" doesn't have any credibility any more.

i disagree that the manifesto is clear. to me it reads as a waffling justification of a design they do not want to change. making claims that things have to be one way or another, when actually it is their design choice that creates those limitations.

there's always going to be a variety of player experiences. from my perspective, i enjoy the game a lot more when i can experience more content. freer trading allows me to experience more content and that is my preference.



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goetzjam написал:
Both poe.trade and the official trade site have bulk purchasing options which work great.

this method does not work great for everyone like yourself, in fact it does not work great for most people, so again it comes down to we need a in game trade system full stop

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