So I wake up today and my account is locked with NO notice. You just lost a customer!

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alhazred70 написал:
This is pure speculation on your part


They code it. They don't make the decisions. Tencent decides what the eastern client needs, GGG does the work - especially now since they are part of Tencent. When the company got acquired, they said that they have one team only working on the eastern client.

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and have been assured that Tencent has never tried to interfere with game design or operations outside of China. We retain full control of Path of Exile and will only make changes that we feel are best for the game.


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We develop almost all features on the international version. But sometimes, Tencent will request features that they want to try in the Chinese version that we don't plan to roll into the international version. If those features turn out to be a really good fit for both versions, then we of course port them back into the international version.

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Последняя редакция: Phrazz#3529. Время: 1 февр. 2019 г., 12:50:11
I don't think Shags was saying GGG doesn't develop or support the Asian version release, but that Tenecent has more say on what GGG is supposed to put in the game.
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and will only make changes that we feel are best for the game.


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We develop almost all features on the international version. But sometimes, Tencent will request features that they want to try


So yeah RMT in the chinese client is coded into the game and approved explicitly by GGG. Making them ethically culpable and proving with 100% certainty that they have a hypocritical double standard within their own game, allowing chinese players to RMT while banning International Client players for even saying they RMT.

This is the definition of moral/ethical cowardice, hypocrisy, aka not practicing what you preach.
Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years.
everything should be unified under one server...

all servers should merge into the china version...

from the china based version, then make localized language for all other languages...

legalize rmt...

put all currencies and items and crafting into cash shop...

but make it f2p so that whatever thing u can get from cash shop, u can also grind it in-game...

its time china rule the world...
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alhazred70 написал:
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and will only make changes that we feel are best for the game.


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We develop almost all features on the international version. But sometimes, Tencent will request features that they want to try


So yeah RMT in the chinese client is coded into the game and approved explicitly by GGG. Making them ethically culpable and proving with 100% certainty that they have a hypocritical double standard within their own game, allowing chinese players to RMT while banning International Client players for even saying they RMT.

This is the definition of moral/ethical cowardice, hypocrisy, aka not practicing what you preach.


Haha!

Your first quote was about the international version, the second about the Chinese version. Just stop.

GGG do not own the Chenese version, and HAVE to do what Tencent tells them to. They will not bring these changes to the INTERNATIONAL version, if it doesn't "fit" the game or the Western market.

I struggle to see how this is a bad thing.
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stkmro написал:
everything should be unified under one server...

all servers should merge into the china version...

from the china based version, then make localized language for all other languages...

legalize rmt...

put all currencies and items and crafting into cash shop...

but make it f2p so that whatever thing u can get from cash shop, u can also grind it in-game...

its time china rule the world...


OR instead of dumbing this down to a childlike binary world view, we could insist that they just stop being hypocritcal and at least ignore RMT instead of having a open double standard that makes them look two faced.

Or you know pretend this is about turning everything into the chinese version because thats the limit of your intellectual capacity on an issue. Whatever.
Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years.
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alhazred70 написал:
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Turtledove написал:


I don't think that there is anything hypocritical about having two different policies for two different markets. It is called intelligent marketing.


Its the definition of hypocritical, if a Priest goes to southeast asia and diddles a 13 y/o Boy because its not illegal there is he no longer a pedo because its accepted in that culture?

GGG condones RMT for a huge segment of their player base and bans people from the other chunk of their player base for the exact same behavour. This is a cowardly and frankly a little absurd double standard because its' 100% clear that they have no actual ethical qualms with RMT, they are merely doing it because some small ignorant segment of their EU and NA player base has outdated ideals and a nearly fetishistic obsession with what other players do in a 99% PvE game and how they spend their money.

As I've noted most EU and NA game players don't hold this old fashion 90's era view on RMT, most MMO's literally have official RMT

It's kinda time for GGG to step away from this policy that makes them look two faced and hypocritical.


Your analogy is morally reprehensible by most standards. Comparing it to a marketing policy seems to be a thinly veiled attempt to be insulting.

edit: On the other hand, if what you're saying is that RMT is morally reprehensible to you similar to pedophilia then I would just say then that you would be an excellent case example for the non-Chinese policy for RMT. My understanding of the Chinese market is that gamers there expect RMT to be part of the game. Which explains why GGG has two different marketing policies for two different markets.
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Последняя редакция: Turtledove#4014. Время: 1 февр. 2019 г., 14:49:52
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Turtledove написал:

Your analogy is morally reprehensible by most standards.


This assertion is nonesense. First off An analogy can't have moral weight its a hypothetical device to illustrate a logical premise. Then you use a vague appeal to authority fallacy "by most standards" that can't possibly be proven and would be an ad populum fallacy even if it could be supported.

Your stance on this issue is very obviously far from clearly thought out and seems mostly predicated on the distinction in your mind that its okay for someone to hold two opposing Hypocritical stances on an ethical matter; as long as they are applied in separate arbitrary geographical boundaries. Thus the analogy which unfortunately you've failed to grasp.

You might as well be arguing that it's okay for GGG to let people who wear Red shoes RMT; but at the same time Ban people who wear Blue shoes if they RMT. after all they have different colored shoes. Thats exactly how well thought out your premise is.
Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years.
Последняя редакция: alhazred70#2994. Время: 1 февр. 2019 г., 19:09:58
this is like the most popular thread on the board this month lol good grief

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