3.12 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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br0kns0l2 написал:
New player looking for a build. Would you suggest doing this one, or Kays' Spectres?

Everyone is suggesting Enki's Arc, but I'm not about lightning. I want me some minions. :D


Kays' Spectre everytime,its updated for every league with new mechanics and optimization

This build is a relic from the past when zombies used to be good,with heavy investment it can still be ok but with the same investment you can go rs spectres and be a god

The entire front page of being the fastest strongest and tankiest is a lie
Especially this part
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DPS: Over 1 million DPS per zombie (upwards of 2 million per zombie... multiply that by 15 or so zombies. You can also throw on an extra 12 Skeletons doing another 1 million DPS each if you wish).
TANKY: Over 10,000 eHP (upwards of 25,000 eHP)
SPEED: Over 200% movespeed (upwards of 300%)
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You cant reach those numbers anymore in league ever since the changes(maybe in standard with legacy),you will always have to sacrifice one aspect to get the other
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Masouths написал:
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br0kns0l2 написал:
New player looking for a build. Would you suggest doing this one, or Kays' Spectres?

Everyone is suggesting Enki's Arc, but I'm not about lightning. I want me some minions. :D


Kays' Spectre everytime,its updated for every league with new mechanics and optimization

This build is a relic from the past when zombies used to be good,with heavy investment it can still be ok but with the same investment you can go rs spectres and be a god

The entire front page of being the fastest strongest and tankiest is a lie
Especially this part
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DPS: Over 1 million DPS per zombie (upwards of 2 million per zombie... multiply that by 15 or so zombies. You can also throw on an extra 12 Skeletons doing another 1 million DPS each if you wish).
TANKY: Over 10,000 eHP (upwards of 25,000 eHP)
SPEED: Over 200% movespeed (upwards of 300%)
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You cant reach those numbers anymore in league ever since the changes(maybe in standard with legacy)


The DPS part is still true, thanks to cluster jewels and it's not more expensive then crafting some for spectres. (I had 1.8m dps with my zombiemancer as a league starter, but you can achieve dps in the 4-5m dps with a proper setup and investments)
The EHP part is a big lie nowadays lol tanky maybe with some heavy investment, but 11k - 25k EHP ? Nah
Последняя редакция: bigtoaster64. Время: 6 авг. 2020 г., 0:53:07
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bigtoaster64 написал:
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Masouths написал:
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br0kns0l2 написал:
New player looking for a build. Would you suggest doing this one, or Kays' Spectres?

Everyone is suggesting Enki's Arc, but I'm not about lightning. I want me some minions. :D


Kays' Spectre everytime,its updated for every league with new mechanics and optimization

This build is a relic from the past when zombies used to be good,with heavy investment it can still be ok but with the same investment you can go rs spectres and be a god

The entire front page of being the fastest strongest and tankiest is a lie
Especially this part
"
DPS: Over 1 million DPS per zombie (upwards of 2 million per zombie... multiply that by 15 or so zombies. You can also throw on an extra 12 Skeletons doing another 1 million DPS each if you wish).
TANKY: Over 10,000 eHP (upwards of 25,000 eHP)
SPEED: Over 200% movespeed (upwards of 300%)
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You cant reach those numbers anymore in league ever since the changes(maybe in standard with legacy)


The DPS part is still true, thanks to cluster jewels and it's not more expensive then crafting some for spectres. (I had 1.8m dps with my zombiemancer as a league starter, but you can achieve dps in the 4-5m dps with a proper setup and investments)
The EHP part is a big lie nowadays lol tanky maybe with some heavy investment, but 11k - 25k EHP ? Nah



I am still trying to figure out how people are getting 1 mil per zombie. Maybe Im reading my POB wrong, but Im hitting a wall around 27k DPS (average damage). I cant seem to bump it and dont know what Im missing. I dont think it's the build guide as many folks havent had issues with it working so I think Im just missing something critical.

Still a fun build, but I really want to try and take on some of the end game bosses. Hard for me to compare against any other builds though since Im a casual off an on player. Maybe this one is overly dated now and I need to find something similar.
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MaYzE69 написал:


I am still trying to figure out how people are getting 1 mil per zombie. Maybe Im reading my POB wrong, but Im hitting a wall around 27k DPS (average damage). I cant seem to bump it and dont know what Im missing. I dont think it's the build guide as many folks havent had issues with it working so I think Im just missing something critical.

Still a fun build, but I really want to try and take on some of the end game bosses. Hard for me to compare against any other builds though since Im a casual off an on player. Maybe this one is overly dated now and I need to find something similar.



I've been following this build, and here's where I am at currently. It's taken some investment, and I still only have an 80% damage Elegant Hubris. Plenty of room to grow, and around 560k+ DPS with zombies. If I switch to specs, I'll get up to 1.4m, but requires switching to Aegis. Either way check out the PoB see if you find what you're missing.

I use 3 specs with the zombies. 2 Stygian Silverbacks, and 1 Host Chieftain linked with blood magic to spam power and frenzy. Guardian has a kingmaker/leer cast as well. Just those changes alone is like 200k dps. Putting this build together is like a jigsaw puzzle, miss one piece and it's crap.


https://pastebin.com/ytFq9Sde

Wanted to try the speed build after watching couples of OP's videos, but i think i'm doing something wrong, can't run the 8 auras at the same time and my overall DPS seems pretty low. If someone could please have a look and tell me the directions maybe to take to run the auras all at once and upping my dps. Thank you!


PoB: https://pastebin.com/DsmgZ4BD

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amkronos написал:
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MaYzE69 написал:


I am still trying to figure out how people are getting 1 mil per zombie. Maybe Im reading my POB wrong, but Im hitting a wall around 27k DPS (average damage). I cant seem to bump it and dont know what Im missing. I dont think it's the build guide as many folks havent had issues with it working so I think Im just missing something critical.

Still a fun build, but I really want to try and take on some of the end game bosses. Hard for me to compare against any other builds though since Im a casual off an on player. Maybe this one is overly dated now and I need to find something similar.



I've been following this build, and here's where I am at currently. It's taken some investment, and I still only have an 80% damage Elegant Hubris. Plenty of room to grow, and around 560k+ DPS with zombies. If I switch to specs, I'll get up to 1.4m, but requires switching to Aegis. Either way check out the PoB see if you find what you're missing.

I use 3 specs with the zombies. 2 Stygian Silverbacks, and 1 Host Chieftain linked with blood magic to spam power and frenzy. Guardian has a kingmaker/leer cast as well. Just those changes alone is like 200k dps. Putting this build together is like a jigsaw puzzle, miss one piece and it's crap.


https://pastebin.com/ytFq9Sde



You rock. How critical is it to have the animated guardian and the correct specters? I removed my guardian and have been working strictly with the Zoms and specs.

I also was using Lethal Pride in place of Hubris. It was the only way I could seem to break 1k Str.

Thanks for sharing. Ill take a look at what your POB is and see what I can adjust. Mine is below just in case you wanted to see the mess that it is.

POB: https://pastebin.com/eta9vZd2
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MaYzE69 написал:


You rock. How critical is it to have the animated guardian and the correct specters? I removed my guardian and have been working strictly with the Zoms and specs.

I also was using Lethal Pride in place of Hubris. It was the only way I could seem to break 1k Str.

Thanks for sharing. Ill take a look at what your POB is and see what I can adjust. Mine is below just in case you wanted to see the mess that it is.

POB: https://pastebin.com/eta9vZd2


I upgraded to the speed version last night, and here's what that PoB looks:

https://pastebin.com/xqQb0MEX

875K dps per zom

In order to get all the aura's going you'll need a level 4 Enlighten, and an Aul's Uprising that removes mana cost for Pride.

For you zombie build, I'd drop Minion Speed for Ruthless or Brutality. I found with stacking Ghastly Eye Jewel's with the "Minions have X% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you or your minions have killed Recently" to be as effective as Minion Speed (2 or 3 of them), get some that also buff minion damage if you've killed.

A guardian with Kingmaker, Leer Cast, and Victario's Flight adds +50% to critical strike damage, culling strike, fortify, 15% increased damage, and +10% movement speed to every minion, and you.

If you spread some +str items across your jewelry, belt and gloves you should be able to get over 1000 str without using Lethal Pride, and then add in an Elegant Hubris. Even an 80% inc damage one is worth it while you divine/shop for a better one.


Последняя редакция: amkronos. Время: 6 авг. 2020 г., 15:31:42
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amkronos написал:


I upgraded to the speed version last night, and here's what that PoB looks:

https://pastebin.com/xqQb0MEX

875K dps per zom

In order to get all the aura's going you'll need a level 4 Enlighten, and an Aul's Uprising that removes mana cost for Pride.

For you zombie build, I'd drop Minion Speed for Ruthless or Brutality. I found with stacking Ghastly Eye Jewel's with the "Minions have X% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you or your minions have killed Recently" to be as effective as Minion Speed (2 or 3 of them), get some that also buff minion damage if you've killed.

A guardian with Kingmaker, Leer Cast, and Victario's Flight adds +50% to critical strike damage, culling strike, fortify, 15% increased damage, and +10% movement speed to every minion, and you.

If you spread some +str items across your jewelry, belt and gloves you should be able to get over 1000 str without using Lethal Pride, and then add in an Elegant Hubris. Even an 80% inc damage one is worth it while you divine/shop for a better one.




Thanks for the tips. I did some tweaking. My guys are hitting harder now, but I sacrificed my strength and cant seem to find gear to make it over 1k (at 950 now). I also no longer cap my resistances, but use a potion to help that out. Gonna need some more tuning I think but I'm getting real poor. Animated guardian is out of the question as the axe alone is selling for over 1ex. Id hate to drop that and have it die. Pretty sure Ive spent like 20ex on this build so far and am no where near where it needs to be. Next time I find a budget build that is newbie friendly. :P

Even with my bastardized version I can still clear T16 maps and im still having fun. Just not as efficient as the veterans putting this one together.

Edit: Eradicator one shots me now. Gonna need to beef up the res again.
Последняя редакция: MaYzE69. Время: 7 авг. 2020 г., 2:48:38
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Последняя редакция: thefloydian. Время: 7 авг. 2020 г., 3:00:16
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thefloydian написал:
Hi, I'm looking at the POBs int he main thread, and I can't tell what the Thread of Hope is supposed to be doing. Which nodes is it helping to allocate in this build?


You want a thread of hope version that uses the Medium ring. Then place it up in the socket north of the witch starter, above Lord of the Dead.

Then once placed you can allocate any passive that falls within the medium ring without having to path there to get it. SO you can pick Ravenous Horde, and Cruel Preparation without pathing there through the tree.

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