poe is still the most p2w game ive ever played

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AdRonZh3Ro написал:

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DarthSki44 написал:

I'm sorry but paid PoE stash space, and the QoL offered by specialized tabs, is just as P2W as buying stash space or QoL in LA, or similar games. That's not subjective.

As Draegnarrr said, it is subjective because you can clear the game with base stash tabs. Convenience is the only thing they sell and that's a fact. To compare it to games that you can literally progress with your wallet is an ignorant and blatantly misguided comparison.

draeg is using outdated info fyi. his claim that he can beat poe faster than the lost ark hurdle he was speaking about is objectively impossible. in fact, trying to whale past that hurdle is slower than just using the free materials the game hands out to you

and secondly, your idea that p2w strictly ties to progression implies genshin is the least p2w out of these 3 games. your idea of what p2w means is flawed.

Try Diablo immoral and we will talk again..

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Ivanovv83 написал:

Try Diablo immoral and we will talk again..

Pay for a slight chance to maybe win at something. Lol.

It's pretty inconvenient to play Path of Exile without buying extra stash tabs - no arguing there.

What differentiates PoE from some predatory monetization models for me is the fact, that predatory games can suck tens of thousands of dollars out of you which translates into direct in-game power and not just some cosmetic stuff - hello, Diablo Immortal!

Meanwhile in PoE buying stash tabs has a 'ceiling'. If you spend 1000$ on stash tabs you won't have an advantage over someone who has spent only 500$ on tabs. I would even argue that you are at disadvantage managing your gazzilion tabs. After all 99% of drops in PoE is trash and the lesser you pick up, the more effective you are.

I've been playing for 5 years, and spent some 70$ on tabs, and I feel like I've spent to much. They even added a free affinity system which literally makes some specialized tabs useless for me - Blight, Metamorph, Delirium - because with affinities you can store all of it in a regular tab.

Let's just put it this way. I have played for almost 10 years and I have a lot of hours - since I split time on GGG server and Steam I can only guess but let's say 10k at minimum. I spent about $100 US getting tabs (I don't care about MTX). That is the best value for entertainment ever.

If you think that you should never give GGG a cent even though you are playing and enjoying the game you are being a jerk. That GGG has in the International version not bowed to having real PTW stuff (like power leveling etc.) is really pretty special. This is a crazy flawed view of things by the OP.

hoho.

bump for more p2w memes

BRO YOU CAN find in 30 sec on google sites that sell all builds divines all you want for money and they are up for years no bans no remove

What does a game cost nowadays? $70?

You know how many stash tabs you can get for $70? Enough to never have to think about it ever again.

And then you get free expansions/leagues/updates for the rest of the game's life. And since you don't have to buy any, you can choose the appropriate amount to suit your needs.

That's very different than the XP boost/free level on start/special golden bullets/%increase power boosts that are temporary and definitely give an in game advantages.

Once you realize this simple point, it becomes clear that POE is not F2P; it is pay to play (once). From what I can tell, it does appear that Lost Ark does have these temporary type boosts that some people might describe as pay for convenience, but I personally call it P2W.

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PozeraczCial написал:

BRO YOU CAN find in 30 sec on google sites that sell all builds divines all you want for money and they are up for years no bans no remove

This is not only a cool story but also completely relevant to the discussion at hand. That aside, show us where you can buy divine orbs here https://www.pathofexile.com/shop