Why dedicate my time if I can lose all my XP with a death penalty?

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mrxkon#5764 написал:

From a business perspective, smart is bringing more people on board while trying to make more cash,

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boyandroid#6548 написал:

Because the death XP penalty is one of the equalizers in their competitive scene. PoE1 has a race to 100 ladder every leagues, sometimes they even offer prizes for the winners, & it's open to everyone you just play & level up. PoE2 early access even has one, even though it is still in early access. 

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MEITTI#3999 написал:

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mrxkon#5764 написал:

From a business perspective, smart is bringing more people on board while trying to make more cash,

Casualizing games bringing "wider audience" is a myth. Elden Ring wasn't much easier than previous Souls games yet it was a mainstream success regardless. You're essentially trying to argue that mainstream doesn't like chili so what we should start serving in a chili restaurant is cold porridge.

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Suchka_777#4336 написал:

Honestly, it's amazing how people are arguing over 10 years about such simple topic. So many people don't understand such obvious thing, which I described above. Gladly GGG are smart enough to understand it and to not pay much attention to those debates.

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boyandroid#6548 написал:

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AngryGekko#0233 написал:

Nobody, just NOBODY wins with this penalty active in the game.

Saying that the death XP penalty doesn't bring any good for the game was not entirely true.

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I know one reason why it exists, maybe it is also the same reason why GGG keeps it in PoE for the longest time (just an educated guess no actual data to back it up).

Because the death XP penalty is one of the equalizers in their competitive scene. PoE1 has a race to 100 ladder every leagues, sometimes they even offer prizes for the winners, & it's open to everyone you just play & level up. PoE2 early access even has one, even though it is still in early access. 

So what does the race to 100 have to do with the death XP penalty? Well, if you remove the death XP penalty, the whole race (leveling up to 100) just becomes a fixed value of hours & just becomes XP per hour race. And whoever can play non-stop in the highest difficulty to get most xp wins. Which is very bad for the player's health who wants to compete & GGG doesn't like it either.

The death XP penalty becomes a deterrent for players to just keep playing without resting or sleeping. If you just keep going without rest, you may lose focus or easily misjudge a decision & you die (your character, or worst also you), & you lose progress that might cause you the race. So the player who has a balanced playtime & rest has a shot in the race, he just needs to avoid mistakes.

So you see, sometimes dying in the game saves real lives.

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BK2710#6123 написал:

The entire debacle can be solved by moving the punishment to a reward instead. Reward deathless completion chains with stacking xp/item bonuses and maybe a currency for it so the "really good" players can get some unique items someone who dies every now and then cannot.

Bad feeling converted to a rewarding feeling, everyone wins.

Alternatively, opt-in features via toggles or a league akin to SSF on char creation. No side has to give up anything and everyone stands to gain from it. The only losers are those with malicious intend/vested interest in botting/RMT/selling services which is a problem to begin with.

There are a few people who barely make it to 100, if at all, who defend it as an ego thing as this is the only game/genre they play and they need it to compensate for something but that is a psychological problem and you have a few of those everywhere, no offense.

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newtonjin#6604 написал:

Imagine liking only certain types of build or a specific set of builds being able to reach end game, limiting the freedom and veriety of builds.... Imagine liking that.