We Need In-Game Instant Buyout Trading — Not Just the Trade Site

It is not part of the VISION

No matter how much rants get posted here J is adamant players need to interact.

I get it.

Cool concept...with a BIG BUT.

We all know what the BUTs are so Ill propose what I think will fix the nonsense most of us cannot stand.

Msg 100 sellers to be ignored.

Recommendation:
1) Cost associated with listing ... shit everything else takes your gold in this game.

2) Once you list an item it is locked for a duration of time and price cannot be raised on the item. Sure the seller if they want more would be FORCED to now engage in haggling through whispers and the burden would be placed on them.

Above would stop the "test" interest bait and switch crap.

Yes it would still lead to situations where a seller wants more but again. The burden is on them to haggle.

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Ovari#3383 написал:

At this point this feature is a MUST.

100% agree. Jonathan said it himself. But there's been no updates regarding it since launch. It also seems alot of players aren't aware of what Jonathan said. I recommend everyone watch the video and hear it from the vision himself.

I just pulled down all my sale tabs and scrapped the gear. More than half the people that hit me up for trades ghost me, and +80% of the people i try to buy from. I'm sick of TPing back to town and standing there waiting for someone who isnt coming or staring at a screen hoping someone invites me for a trade they posted they wanted to make.

This is something that probably worked great with a small tight-knit community, but as masses join and participate, its not only non-viable but its an actual detriment to the experience.

Auction house, in-house repository to sell for set cost, or literally anything that doesnt put my time at the mercy of strangers.

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matma#0311 написал:

I just pulled down all my sale tabs and scrapped the gear. More than half the people that hit me up for trades ghost me, and +80% of the people i try to buy from. I'm sick of TPing back to town and standing there waiting for someone who isnt coming or staring at a screen hoping someone invites me for a trade they posted they wanted to make.

This is something that probably worked great with a small tight-knit community, but as masses join and participate, its not only non-viable but its an actual detriment to the experience.

Auction house, in-house repository to sell for set cost, or literally anything that doesnt put my time at the mercy of strangers.

Yeah I just realized something during campaign we just buy upgrades from vendor anyways. People are fine with that why not instead of in game vendor its instant buy-out trading. You list your items in stash with fixed price. Players talk to vendor and vendor opens up a menu in game similar to trade site. You search for what you want. You buy it and it gets taken out of their stash and they get what they listed their item for delivered to their stash. It is the same thing of the trade site without all the tedious bs. Last epoch made it work i think GGG could make it work. And if they arent willing to do it at the bare minimum bring the trade site into the game with its current features at least.

2 Big problems:

1 Right now is not in game. So +1 to anything about getting it into the game and not in a website.

2 Price fixers and afk are a problem now.
But if u have instant buy what u will get is bots.

So 3 The system have to have a way to prevent bots for doing market manipulation. Is gold the answer? Is the answer limit the cuantity of trades u can make per day? Wich one is the solution to avoid that some random dude wanna get rich and buy all astramentis that are below X Price to sell them for X price with a bot?

How do u prevent that?

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Sarke#5416 написал:

2 Big problems:

1 Right now is not in game. So +1 to anything about getting it into the game and not in a website.

2 Price fixers and afk are a problem now.
But if u have instant buy what u will get is bots.

So 3 The system have to have a way to prevent bots for doing market manipulation. Is gold the answer? Is the answer limit the cuantity of trades u can make per day? Wich one is the solution to avoid that some random dude wanna get rich and buy all astramentis that are below X Price to sell them for X price with a bot?

How do u prevent that?

This problem already exists though. In fact its even worse because people will list large numbers of items to confuse sellers that don't know the value of their items to list them at a very low price.

There is no fool-proof method of controlling a game economy, at least that I am aware of. But nearly every game with an auction house has combated them well enough that the systems were usable for the player base.

People ALREADY get crazy wealthy in the game by taking advantage of the systems in place right now. IMO add a gold price to list an item in the house, keep the silly website if they must, and make the trade instant.

This actually greatly benefits casual players as they can make sales without having to be in the game 24/7, or miss a sale and get blocked because they had to pop a deuce and some aggro blaster loses their mind because they didn't get a response.

The game should be designed around players. Let's turn off all the trade system since there are bots farming currency. This sounds too weak. Instant bayout or AH must be in with no doubts. Easy script with +10 seconds cooldown for every next search or refreshment will solve every problem.

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Sarke#5416 написал:

2 Big problems:

1 Right now is not in game. So +1 to anything about getting it into the game and not in a website.

I would be ok with a one-click website where it gets mailed to my account.

Honestly, whatever they can do fastest.

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simonis87#2392 написал:

The moment you make an extra automated system the game will go 1 step further to become a single player game. And the moment you lose most multiplayer game aspects of the game the game will die as just any other single player games. All these little interactions bad and good, people coming to hideouts, global chat, guild chat, checking for items and services on tft,trade2,3,4 and website. is what makes game feel alive. Like i said every automated system deletes a portion of Life from the game. Many people prefer current trade system over automated trading, you got currency exchange, that's enough as it is.

Im new to arpg but in im my mid 30s and been gaming for a long time. I have never experienced anything like this games trade. Its completely one of a kind. None of what you just said has been relevant or neccessary in any game ever in the history of ever. Its a one of a kind garbage system. And let's be honest here. Poe has never have a massive long term player base. A couple dozen thousand is rediculously bad.

First time I have ever experienced trade like this and it makes the game worse and most people are far more likely to quit because of it. Were already on about 4% of the original player base on launch as current players.

We need a timer to resell...

There is a lot of RMT business going buying low and selling ridiculous high (buying 1 div, selling 40 div).

No joke, saw a lot at the league start....

I bought all my set for 22 div.
Now, each piece of it goes for 15 div. EACH PIECE.

And it changed from one day to another.

This bricks the game, the economy, build diversity and all things.