Remember when poe 2 was just an expansion?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcd9BfVw7hQ&ab_channel=BDtetra

the good ol days

https://www.youtube.com/live/XE3MAFGDzWw?feature=share&t=14753

4:05:53 Octavian: "At what point in the development of POE 2 did you realize the game was too different and needed to be different from POE 1?" Jonathan: "So to me it was right after the Act 2 reveal - soon after that." The Path of Exile II Act 2 reveal was posted on 08.04.2021. GGG knew that PoE II was gonna be a separate game for TWO YEARS, and neglected to tell the players. =>[.]<=

Yea I dono what to say,

going from a game with an abundance of builds, content, crafting options, chase items etc many many more things than i can even think of

to a game that feels like everything is missing and trying to target an entirely new player base.

When it was supposed to just be an expansion to the greatest arpg on the market

Slightly more newb friendly
Ex: no chrome/jeweler orbs
Better graphics
New campaign
new classes
New skills
New bosses
New monsters

Alot of stuff about poe 2 feels like they totally forgot that they made poe 1

The perfect template is already in their possession but they thought to keep the identity different?

I dono, I'm dumbfounded, hopefully they just show love to poe 1 still.

To me this seems like a realisation that: "oh shit the expansion sucks, lets just release it as separate product and not kill the gold egg laying goose that is poe1"

Imagine if GGG would actually kill poe1 and have only poe2 right now :D

I don't hate poe 2,
there's definitely something there
lots of work to do
don't know why there's lots of work since they already had the blueprint in poe 1

But nevertheless
It's EA.

the fact poe 1 will probably never see the 4.0 update they were promised and what poe 2 was supposed to be, kind of hits different since poe 1 and the player base is what made poe 2 even possible.

Too much innovation not enough development. Feels like a meme coin. Just waiting for the rug pull...

GGG galvanized its player base with the product they made, and anyone that's been paying attention for months prior to December knows precisely what POE2 is supposed to be. We're getting what's been advertised, only it's still cooking in EA so it takes time, and making fundamental changes to the game to make it more akin to PoE1 because of a loud minority would turn it into something it wasn't supposed to be.

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Defalto#9237 написал:

GGG galvanized its player base with the product they made, and anyone that's been paying attention for months prior to December knows precisely what POE2 is supposed to be. We're getting what's been advertised, only it's still cooking in EA so it takes time, and making fundamental changes to the game to make it more akin to PoE1 because of a loud minority would turn it into something it wasn't supposed to be.

Are you not listening? PoE2 was "advertised" as the PoE1 expansion "4.0".
That was "advertised" in 2019 and only changed in 2023 to the "standalone" version. That's not "getting what's been advertised", it's the opposite.

Imagine your favorite game getting a huge expansion with all these new updates.

Then being told naw sorry we lied but we will still make poe 1 and poe 2 along side eachother

Then naw sorry we lied got to use all our resources to improve a game in early access

But we appreciate all the support you've given us for the last 10 years so we can make a totally new game that is leagues worse than the game we already have and are no longer making an expansion and updating the game that made us successful.

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Sheldon_ballantyne#2597 написал:

a game that feels like everything is missing

I bet if you lived in a house that was under construction it might feel like a few things were missing.

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and trying to target an entirely new player base.

You guys really need to let this go. It's clear that PoE2 does not appeal to a committed and very vocal group of PoE1 players. I respect your perspective and sympathize with how you feel about the direction GGG is going, but this idea you have that everyone who ever played and enjoyed PoE1 agrees with you is just a fantasy you've built up because you're immersed in communities of like-minded people (and tend to ignore or push away people like me who don't fit into your mold).

I played PoE1 extensively as did many of my immediate friends and people in my "extended network" of gaming associate and I don't know of anyone who didn't love the game dearly and cherish the time they spent playing it, but now everyone I know who ever played PoE1 is playing and enjoying PoE2 (yes, even this patch).

Neither of us have access to the level of player activity data that would be needed to say which of our experiences represent the larger portion of the overall PoE player community - but GGG certainly has that data, and the fact that they decided to continue diverting resources away from PoE1 for the benefit of 2 despite knowing how unpopular that decision would be with the PoE1 diehards tells me pretty much all I need to know about what their data is telling them.

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But we appreciate all the support you've given us for the last 10 years so we can make a totally new game that is leagues worse

Again, totally with you right up until this point because I don't think it's worse at all, let alone leagues, and I know before you finish this sentence you will have come up with a bunch of reasons why my opinion on the matter is invalid, but it is what it is guy. I love what PoE2 is but more than that I love the potential for the game it is going to become.