Making Combat "Meaningful" in POE2, a 10y POE1 Vet View

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rob_korn#1745 написал:

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Gordyne#2944 написал:

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Mental gymnastic 10/10.
It is exactly what it is, regarless of new or old player. The focus is to get people back or for the first time in new league, because this is how they maximize the profits. It is by design.

Noone is expected to play for the full duration of a league, but the new stuff is there to build hype and excitment enducing purchase every time as much as possible. Again, that's EXACTLY what it is. That's not a mindset, that's the business model.

You bring the campaign skip that I never mentioned ever, and that is irrelevant with the model again.
People asking for skip is just the normal friction of a live service game, where people always ask as much as possible, while devs try to give up as little as possible. This is the fate of a Live service game. Did I mention PoE is a live service game ? Repetitiveness is a central part of the equation.

Again, with all respect, the faster ppl put that down their mind, the better for everyone.

Now, before you answer again "not exactly", here is some bibliography for you :

Designing Path of Exile to Be Played Forever

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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3739803 написал:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3739803

It is highly recommended that you play in the new economy due to the extensive number of balance changes.

we do recommend starting over and getting the full new experience in the Dawn of the Hunt leagues

Future leagues will usually add exclusive content.

on release weekend we expect to launch the new mystery box and cool microtransactions, some of which are themed around the Huntress!

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Gordyne#2944 написал:

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rob_korn#1745 написал:

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Gordyne#2944 написал:

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You're answering without having read/watched what I gave you. And it shows.
That's called ignorance, uneducated, whichever you prefer.
I'm not arguing with you if the design is good or not, I'm explaining you how it is. I cannot do more for you, the work is in your hands to educate yourself now.

I tried.

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Kraythax#2592 написал:

Your posts are right on target. This new VERY VOCAL MINORITY is going to result in this game being recorded as the biggest failure in the ARPG space and for a company that built the best ARPG ever (POE 1) it is quite the turnaround. The problem is all of these newcomers want an isomorphic Elden Ring in ARPG form and when the game goes down because there are not enough of them to support the company they will move on and wreck the next title. The only hope we can have is someone with power at GGG reads this thread and gets it.

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Also Last Epoch sits at 100-135k players peak

POE2 sits at 85-100k

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Kraythax#2592 написал:

The very premise of the post is that if you make combat "meaningful" outside of bosses its no longer an ARPG and is, as some have proposed, an isometric elden ring with a map system.

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Summoner#7705 написал:

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Kraythax#2592 написал:

The very premise of the post is that if you make combat "meaningful" outside of bosses its no longer an ARPG and is, as some have proposed, an isometric elden ring with a map system.

Elden Ring is ARPG.

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Rakeshemi#0602 написал:

I never played PoE1, but this is exactly what I’ve been trying to put into words over the last few days. Great post—I really hope the devs see it.

I hope when they sit down to make the next PoE1 league, they take a step back and seriously ask themselves: what kind of game do we want PoE2 to be?