White monsters should not be a threat(with high investments in gear defense wise)

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Genadolf#2101 написал:

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PaintMaster#2396 написал:

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Genadolf#2101 написал:

im not surprised, i just made post about it because it should not work like that, white mobs should not be a threat no matter 5 of them 20 of them or 200 of them

Haven't read something this dumb in a while

(with hundreds of divines invested in gear primary in defence)

poe 2 balance is dumb, if you agree with current white mob balance - and you are

Having big es pool doesn't mean you tanky when you have no ways to recover it other than recharge that require taking no damage.

I can be more tanky on chronomancer with 4k es because i can get 100%+ life recoup and turn it into ES recoup with that new body armor, so i would recover more es than i take damage, allowing me to actually stay afk surrounded by lots of mobs until somehow they oneshot me.

You have very little understanding of what defense is, as well as little understanding of the game when you say that mobs should do 50 damage before mitigation, making it actually pointless to invest anything into defense because 50 damage is nothing.

Standing afk in 3-4 packs of mobs is incredibly dumb when you have no es recovery.

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Strangehill#1736 написал:

ven in poe1 I'm not sure what passive was strong enough to allow you to stand there doing absolutely nothing forever, instant leech still needed you to hit something

in poe 1 i can build insane mitgation and around 3-4k es regen(% es regen watcher,%life regen watcher, vitality, 2% es regen mastery, and mageblood with % life regen on flask ) with build that has es pool in 25-30k es borders, in this situation i never saw my es drops even for 1k from whitemobes ever.

its what any build at the top of tree can do, trickster has force uninterrupted es recharge on suppress which can give another 3+k es recover per second

4k ES regen is easy enough to get, the issue is it doesn't bypass recharge start under any circumstances that i know of and that's what's killing you

PoE2 does have a big advantage over PoE1 though, a pause button so you can go off and do whatever without anything hitting you at all

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PaintMaster#2396 написал:

You have very little understanding of what defense is

Standing afk in 3-4 packs of mobs is incredibly dumb when you have no es recovery.

why i should make other character with specialised defense against white monsters if they are not rewarding>>>?? whats the points to overcome this challenge? you have too little understanding what balance is and making specialised character to avoid challenge white mobes provide is dumb.

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PaintMaster#2396 написал:

as well as little understanding of the game when you say that mobs should do 50 damage before mitigation, making it actually pointless to invest anything into defense because 50 damage is nothing.

i have 27 less damage mitigation and i have no options to mitigate it further in tree or in gear, there should be other options to mitigate it to numbers that will not matter at all, otherwise balance is bad and game is unfun

ive died more to Solar Priests of screening me with their 8 second cyclops lazer beam then bosses
This npc can go to hell and the fact its off screening you is bullshit

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Strangehill#1736 написал:

4k ES regen is easy enough to get, the issue is it doesn't bypass recharge start under any circumstances that i know of and that's what's killing you

exactly, lich has no option to recover es under taking damage (if dont disable recharge by eternal youth and focus all recovery on life flask which will recover 1500-2000es per second under damage with focused investment which is bad decision, cause too much gear need to change and gameplay based on life flask spam is unfun), examples from es regen are from poe 1, any class from the top side of the tree(top left,top,top right) can invest in es regen and be protected against white mobs.

and there is no option to just mitigate damage high enough to have like 20-30 seconds instead of 5 seconds, this is build progression, i invest divines, i want survive for longer, surviving for 5 seconds with 100d investment just doesnt feel right, its all numbers, even 15 seconds sounds fair enough(from white mobs)

I'm sure as the unique pool progresses something will turn up that does what you want

Sounds like it already has (I wasn't aware of Sacrosanctum but it looks like it would do the job, it's cheap enough to test it out)

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Genadolf#2101 написал:

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PaintMaster#2396 написал:

You have very little understanding of what defense is

Standing afk in 3-4 packs of mobs is incredibly dumb when you have no es recovery.

why i should make other character with specialised defense against white monsters if they are not rewarding>>>?? whats the points to overcome this challenge? you have too little understanding what balance is and making specialised character to avoid challenge white mobes provide is dumb.

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PaintMaster#2396 написал:

as well as little understanding of the game when you say that mobs should do 50 damage before mitigation, making it actually pointless to invest anything into defense because 50 damage is nothing.

i have 27 less damage mitigation and i have no options to mitigate it further in tree or in gear, there should be other options to mitigate it to numbers that will not matter at all, otherwise balance is bad and game is unfun

So balance is when you take no damage? But balance is bad when you take damage? Got it, fortunately your opinion will not affect decisions made by GGG regarding game balance.

I'm not saying that you should make other character, i'm saying your defenses not work when you stay in middle of 20-30mobs for 5 seconds with ZERO es recovery. Do you understand?

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PaintMaster#2396 написал:

So balance is when you take no damage? But balance is bad when you take damage? Got it, fortunately your opinion will not affect decisions made by GGG regarding game balance.

yes, you invest in defense - you take less and less damage from white mobs until they stop being problem at all, when you invest in defense and white mobs still shred you in 5 seconds with no mods - balance is bad, fortunately solving this problem for ggg is only question of time and their own testing, i did my thing and pointed at problem, i have no doubts with new uniques and tree changes will solve it with time or any other ways, this is inevitable and this what will be.

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Genadolf#2101 написал:

i have 50-100 divines invested in build and most of my invests are in defense.

There, you biggest mistake. Offense > Defense, you won't have to deal with threats if there is no threat. Damage > Speed / Clear > Enough defense, your formula to success.