Sorry, but the chisel recipe is pain in the ass

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tinko92 написал:

I level up a new character to lvl 66, I have ~50 stone hammers which is more than 1 ex worth. Free money to buy stuff.

*assuming you found all stone hammers on the ground

*50 white stone hammers require 200 blacksmiths, I have no idea at what rate they trade for chaos, there seems to be no demand, but I bet it's better than wisdom scrolls (which would already be close to 1 chaos).

*Add 50 66 maps. If someone ever buys a 66 map, he has to pay ~ 2-4 alts per map, meaning you are burning through 100-200 alteration orbs = 5-10 chaos.
(hard to price 66 maps as only idiots would buy them ^^)

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-> Gain 50 chisels.
Common offer in trade chat is 3:1c, so you made ~16 chaos.

Even if you ignore what I wrote above, how is that even close to an exalted orb???

With the blacksmiths recipe + their drop rate + their cost, lets take into account that they would cost a total of 1 chaos.

66 maps are a garbage anyway, I don't see anyone buying them, except if it's a Tropical Island, all others end up in vendor for 67 maps.

So practically, 66 maps (other that TI) have almost zero value.

And Chisels hold a firm 2:1 chaos rate, at least in Standard.

And we're back at 1+ ex, with almost no grinding/farming for them.

that is a good look on it , but this also means that because of this recipe the value of chisels will plummet in the next few months as more people developed established practices for farming them.

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Saltychipmunk написал:

that is a good look on it , but this also means that because of this recipe the value of chisels will plummet in the next few months as more people developed established practices for farming them.

Is this a bad thing, or an intended consequence of adding the recipe?

In less than a month we will have new leagues, this recipe is now part of the game. Those in the new leagues will be leveling characters, capable of collecting stone hammers/whetstones as they progress, allowing them to potentially build up a decent cache of chisels to put to use once they are at a level where they are needed.

One man's problem is another man's opportunity. OP sees it as a "pain in the ass", others don't.

This recipe is great for re-rolling, it definitely encourages it.

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Fruz написал:

This recipe is great for re-rolling, it definitely encourages it.

What do you mean : to build a brand new char just for the reason to be a chissel farmer ? C'mon...

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Sinnesteuer написал:

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Saltychipmunk написал:

that is a good look on it , but this also means that because of this recipe the value of chisels will plummet in the next few months as more people developed established practices for farming them.

Is this a bad thing, or an intended consequence of adding the recipe?

In less than a month we will have new leagues, this recipe is now part of the game. Those in the new leagues will be leveling characters, capable of collecting stone hammers/whetstones as they progress, allowing them to potentially build up a decent cache of chisels to put to use once they are at a level where they are needed.

One man's problem is another man's opportunity. OP sees it as a "pain in the ass", others don't.

Make no mistake I think it is a good thing , there simply just was not enough chisels before.

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Saltychipmunk написал:

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Sinnesteuer написал:

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Saltychipmunk написал:

that is a good look on it , but this also means that because of this recipe the value of chisels will plummet in the next few months as more people developed established practices for farming them.

Is this a bad thing, or an intended consequence of adding the recipe?

In less than a month we will have new leagues, this recipe is now part of the game. Those in the new leagues will be leveling characters, capable of collecting stone hammers/whetstones as they progress, allowing them to potentially build up a decent cache of chisels to put to use once they are at a level where they are needed.

One man's problem is another man's opportunity. OP sees it as a "pain in the ass", others don't.

Make no mistake I think it is a good thing , there simply just was not enough chisels before.

Agreed. I was piling on and expounding upon the point I think you were making so that others might see the logic as well. (Don't freak out, it is OK for the two of us to agree from time to time.)

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torturo написал:

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Fruz написал:

This recipe is great for re-rolling, it definitely encourages it.

What do you mean : to build a brand new char just for the reason to be a chissel farmer ? C'mon...

Yea, I farmed about 100 chisels doing the leveling challenge, just by visiting vendors (cause my brain dont trigger on white ston hammr)

It is good for self-found players, but no trader will arse himself to go lvl a char for collecting ston hammrs

Also, this recipe will not make chisels more cheap. Because those who are willing to sell chisels, don't have maps to make the recipe. Those who have maps for the recipe, don't sell their chisels. At best it will create a ston hammr market niche.

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torturo написал:

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Fruz написал:

This recipe is great for re-rolling, it definitely encourages it.

What do you mean : to build a brand new char just for the reason to be a chissel farmer ? C'mon...

re-rolling means making a new toon ...
I didn't say low-level areas farming, which you can do with a high level one btw looking for stone hammers.