RNG vs hard work system

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benkeia написал:

- Kill every day for atleast 7-30 days the equivalent to 5 x78 maps.
- defeat uber atziri

and you are rewarded with a shavrone/kaom Worth like item.
(the item is soulbound, this kills all attempts to RMT even if people don´t like it)

This is wrong. You're basing your assessment on the "worth" of the item in one system without that system in place. Your item wouldn't be worth anything, and no other item would be either. You wouldn't have a concept of worth... only a concept of paying dues so that you too could play the mythical "end game".

It would be utterly stupid to play.

The only thing that would happen is RMT sites would sell accounts that had already activated your end game gear.

I am not interested. One of the major appeals of a game like PoE is the fact the next enemy I kill could drop a godly item. I could kick over a barrel and have a Soul Eater fly out at my face.
If you just make it set rewards, suddenly killing all those mooks becomes increasingly dull because I know I am not going to get anything worthwhile from them. I know people are going to say that as it is, drops all suck anyway(They don't.) but I still think it is a better system.
I do feel PoE could use some better item affixes, there are too many garbage ones and a select few are always wanted on gear. Outside of that, I'll take an RNG based loot system any day of the week.

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Shagsbeard написал:

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benkeia написал:

- Kill every day for atleast 7-30 days the equivalent to 5 x78 maps.
- defeat uber atziri

and you are rewarded with a shavrone/kaom Worth like item.
(the item is soulbound, this kills all attempts to RMT even if people don´t like it)

This is wrong. You're basing your assessment on the "worth" of the item in one system without that system in place. Your item wouldn't be worth anything, and no other item would be either. You wouldn't have a concept of worth... only a concept of paying dues so that you too could play the mythical "end game".

It would be utterly stupid to play.

The only thing that would happen is RMT sites would sell accounts that had already activated your end game gear.

Not true at all.

I have zero RMT bots in D3 trying to sell me accounts. Period. Why? Because you play D3 for a month and you will be set in roughly 85 out of a possible 100 gear rating.

The thing is that I strongly feel that the "after story" game modes should carry themselves - gear or not... RNG or not. And the thing with D3 is despite me probably never getting a BIS (100 out of a possible 100 gear rolls) I still enjoy playing it watching those crazy 6-7mil crit hits flying like popcorn on my screen. THAT is fun for me in an ARPG - feeling powerful - getting loot - playing easily with pals against deamons/mobs/baddies.

RMT is fucking ended in D3. You are completely and totally wrong in your assessment, Shags.

I love poe and still play it almost everyday but some things needs changing, like the game should be designed as an arpg and not an mmo. Lets face it no one plays poe for pvp, maybe some people do that are in the minority or wait for a CT league and because of that GGG keeps nerfing stuff that are deemed OP for pvp's sake or putting damage checks aka reflect mechanics. Get rid of pvp or make it an entirely separate mode with its own balanced gear and weapons.

Ive been playing since closed beta and the best item ive dropped is a BoR and a kaoms. Currently the best you can do to get the higher tier items is to be extremely lucky as hell and drop something thats worth and then trade for the items you want or play Path of Trading to buy the items you want which I have no desire to do.

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Isbox1 написал:

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JahIthBer89 написал:

I'd rather not compare a game that I play for a hobby to "hard work".

Agreed - so lets loosen the strings of the current craft/drop ratios which are set tightly as "slave mines in Siberia" mode.

If you disagree you've won the lottery quite a number of times in your play time - and that's the thing with gambling: it takes a million losers to make a millionaire.

I disagree and have "won the lottery" once ever (in a year and a half of playing) when I chanced a kaoms after already having 15 exalts, a 6L, and everything else I could ever want in ambush. The kaoms was just a nice boost.

I'm just good at managing my resources. How bout you?

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JahIthBer89 написал:

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Isbox1 написал:

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JahIthBer89 написал:

I'd rather not compare a game that I play for a hobby to "hard work".

Agreed - so lets loosen the strings of the current craft/drop ratios which are set tightly as "slave mines in Siberia" mode.

If you disagree you've won the lottery quite a number of times in your play time - and that's the thing with gambling: it takes a million losers to make a millionaire.

I disagree and have "won the lottery" once ever (in a year and a half of playing) when I chanced a kaoms after already having 15 exalts, a 6L, and everything else I could ever want in ambush. The kaoms was just a nice boost.

I'm just good at managing my resources. How bout you?

LOL

Let's take reference here:

15x Exalts
1x Koams
6L
(+ even more - you admit "everything else you could ever want" - so a ton of medium level stuff? BORs, etc?)


In 1x 4 month period?

You won the lottery so many times here - my own experiences are vastly and totally different from yours. 2x Exalts in 4 months - and like I said already: 6k+ fuses and no 6L.

There is a major gap in player experiences here.

Nope. Found a montreguls this season, which didn't even pay for what it took to 6L my cloak of defiance. But otherwise, I haven't found a single item worth more than an exalt. That slow trickle of 1-10 chaos items has been the benefactor of everything I have, just like most people.

But that's not how it works does it? You either find the best item in the game or don't I guess.

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JahIthBer89 написал:

Nope. Found a montreguls this season, which didn't even pay for what it took to 6L my cloak of defiance. But otherwise, I haven't found a single item worth more than an exalt. That slow trickle of 1-10 chaos items has been the benefactor of everything I have, just like most people.

But that's not how it works does it? You either find the best item in the game or don't I guess.

I still have yet to hear a legitimate, valid reason against the following game change:

1) Leave the current drop/craft rates completely as they are

PLUS

2) incorporate a new machine that allows one to add 1k fuses + 1k chromes + 1k jewellers + 1 item to allow you to pick your colors and automatically 6L an item.

Something like this will 1) allow the current gambling system to remain intact - and 2) allow another form in game for players such as myself who would rather not gamble however pay a high cost to attain a 6L item.

Other changes needed with RNG are with mapping: the bosses in maps automatically drop AT LEAST an equal level map to what you are already involved in with the possibility of it being higher level.

Drop rates could also use a boost with low level crap uniques never dropping past X level areas.

A few basic changes here could make the game enjoyable for every style - gamblers and workers alike.

The only issue here is that the gamblers already have their system and will kick and drag their heels here simply out of spite to everyone else. With no logic offered against the ideas for change. Just the usual "no - you are stupid" type responses.

And dude - in your 4 month experiences trounces and shits all over my own 1>1.5 years experience of loot/crafting. Vastly shits all over it. Again: lotteries make ONE millionaire at the expense of a million people.

what i find here funny is that people think the RNG system we got is ok and probably think crafting is PERFECT to, well you are ALL WRONG if it was perfect like most of you think it is, then patches would not need to increase unique drop rate right? why isn´t shavrone map only drop like it used to be? same with kaoms? guess what the game is flawed and can be perfected.

Get that the game will change to better but if posts like this aren´t done we could have still 2 weeks of 0 shavronne and 0 kaom drop in all leagues like it happened once before.

Don´t be afraid of changes the game needs to or it will die. Show your opinion if you want but don´t smack talk saying the rates and the RNG is perfect as it is cause YOU ARE WRONG.

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Isbox1 написал:

There is a major gap in player experiences here.

Random is Random.