RNG vs hard work system

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benkeia написал:

Right now our economy is based on RNG, with 1 kill of a zombie from your lvl 1 you can get richer than 90% of the population (if you get a mirror drop for example).

This has allways being the core philosophy of ARPG. But ive played other games that are quite fun and their system is.

- Kill every day for atleast 7-30 days the equivalent to 5 x78 maps.
- defeat uber atziri

and you are rewarded with a shavrone/kaom Worth like item.
(the item is soulbound, this kills all attempts to RMT even if people don´t like it)

Stuff like this made people work hard for their gear instead of stacking IIR/IIQ and farm for hours (ive farmed over 1000+ maps solo with a 500/100 mf character in the last year) i got over 4 rainbowstride 5 BoR 3 marohi 3 lioneye 2 dream fragment... and so on. but it took me a 0% mf character doing a 70 map to get my first shavronne drop at 2000+- hours of game play.

I undertand everyone will bash this idea, its nature that people refuse to change. But still IMO GGG tries to cover the flaws of their loot system by having to do ladder reset, Knowingly that RNG system isn´t rewarding and by reseting ladder they make people feel happy about their garbage drop not because it is good but because at the moment there is nothing better (everyone has nothing when new league starts)

All this just to cover up that the endgame is not actually playing to improve your gear. Is all about iether RMT or buy item for low price and sell them for high. There is absolutely no need/reward from playing the game. (of course we still do it because it is fun but imagine if it wasn´t just fun but mandatory in order to improve?)

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BerMalBerIst1 написал:

For try, for see, and for know.

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iiell написал:

I hate RNG as much as anyone, but that is what keeps the game going. Yes, POE took RNG to a level I've never experienced before, but it is what keeps the game interesting. You'll hate RNG until you find something great, then you'll remember why you love it.

It is a love/hate relationship.

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Sublime82 написал:

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iiell написал:

I hate RNG as much as anyone, but that is what keeps the game going. Yes, POE took RNG to a level I've never experienced before, but it is what keeps the game interesting. You'll hate RNG until you find something great, then you'll remember why you love it.

It is a love/hate relationship.

And that's the problem... it's all too often all or nothing. The game needs more middling rewards. The developers clearly recognize this, but it remains to be seen whether the upcoming changes to uniques will fix anything.

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syrioforel написал:

What's needed is fewer "trash" mods (alternatively, more viable mods) on gear, so that gear choices are less one-dimensional. Finding a good arrangement of gear from a chaotic set of drops can be fun. Vendoring everything that's not life+resists gets old.

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Isbox1 написал:

I am fond of a "hard work" system. I played the game over a year wasting over 6,000 fuses for zero 6L - even on a shitty mediocre item - for example. And I'm not addicted to gambling therefore I don't play POE now. Counter to what some people are saying in this thread there are gamers who exist who would be very fond of any other system on the face of the planet in comparison to what crafting/drop systems POE currently has.

I'm sure others would give POE another look if they knew their time was valued as a player. Myself included.