Why does GGG not keep their promise?

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Xavderion написал:
1. The wand isn't even close to BiS.


http://imgur.com/a/XHhdx

That's Skyforth comparing the wand to his mirrored wand.

He get's 43k with the unique wand.

He gets 37k with his nice rare wand -- which honestly, you will NOT be getting a better rare wand than the one he shows there, not in a 4-month.

He gets 60k with his mirrored tyrranical/glyphic/flaring wand (t1 flat phys, t1 spell dmg, t1 IPD) - with t1 crit/attack speed etc. You can't get better than that.

So basically, the unique wand is so good that it is essentially impossible to beat in a 4-month league. Your only chance would be to buy something worth a minimum of 150 exalts in Standard, or to mirror one -- again in Standard.

So yes, I'd say it's pretty fucking close to BiS. We could calculate how good a wand would have to be to match or beat, but it's going to be something that is nearly unobtainable in comparison.

GGG kinda sucks at item balance.

Every single patch, they make itemization more bland.
Последняя редакция: Veruski#5480. Время: 4 июн. 2014 г., 20:59:49
ggg says they balance for temp leagues.

these uniques that are released are pretty much BiS in temp leagues.

nice balance
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Veruski написал:
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Xavderion написал:
1. The wand isn't even close to BiS.


http://imgur.com/a/XHhdx

That's Skyforth comparing the wand to his mirrored wand.

He get's 43k with the unique wand.

He gets 37k with his nice rare wand -- which honestly, you will NOT be getting a better rare wand than the one he shows there, not in a 4-month.

He gets 60k with his mirrored tyrranical/glyphic/flaring wand (t1 flat phys, t1 spell dmg, t1 IPD) - with t1 crit/attack speed etc. You can't get better than that.

So basically, the unique wand is so good that it is essentially impossible to beat in a 4-month league. Your only chance would be to buy something worth a minimum of 150 exalts in Standard, or to mirror one -- again in Standard.

So yes, I'd say it's pretty fucking close to BiS. We could calculate how good a wand would have to be to match or beat, but it's going to be something that is nearly unobtainable in comparison.

GGG kinda sucks at item balance.

Every single patch, they make itemization more bland.


Almost 30% less damage than BiS =/= close to BiS. Is the unique wand very good? Yes. Is it BiS? Hell no.
GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
do you understand how hard it is to obtain a mirrored wand?

and it's only 30% better than some trashy unique that will drop thousands of times during a 4-month league?

lol

again: nice balance ;)

also, i'd like to point out that you will never see a wand like his in a 4-month league. it's possible, but it would take the concentrated effort of hundreds/thousands of eternals to be accumulated and spent in a very short time frame.

good luck
Последняя редакция: Veruski#5480. Время: 4 июн. 2014 г., 21:50:46
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HarukaTeno написал:
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DogFaceNoSpace написал:
1) However, more blatant BiS uniques keep getting released each patch! Recently windripper and mjolnr, now this insane OP unique wand which is best in slot for ele wand builds.

2) Most builds already use 3-5 uniques as their BiS items. Almost every build has a BiS unique chest piece now. In the foreseeable future more and more item slots will be occupied by a BiS unique.

1) How i love such people who would go "blind rage" against anything...
http://imgur.com/a/XHhdx
Compare the "op wand" damage screenshot and rare wand damage screenshots
"Mediocre rare wand" is not so far from uniq one; and mirrored wand is way ahead in damage

2) You're bad as a prophet, retire


Not sure if trolling or just...idk.

Do you really compare phys and ele dmg ? There is absolutely _no_ proof. One wand is totally phys oriented, the other totally ele. You cannot compare these, because with both wands you totally build in a different way.

i.e.: phys wand goes for sure eldar power + north cluster (near the curse nodes), ele for sure will go in the direction of templar to grab catalyse, etc.

e1: the power and possible builds with the unique wand are plain outrageous.
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Последняя редакция: Astarte911#6271. Время: 5 июн. 2014 г., 04:29:27
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Veruski написал:
do you understand how hard it is to obtain a mirrored wand?

You should check what BIS means.
Последняя редакция: almostdead#6338. Время: 5 июн. 2014 г., 12:30:10
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almostdead написал:
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Veruski написал:
do you understand how hard it is to obtain a mirrored wand?

You should check what BIS means.


by that logic, i propose the following:

compute the maximum dps on every single rare weapon, for every type of build possible. the weapons must be perfectly rolled and perfectly divined.

now, make a unique version of each rare weapon for each build that has 99% of the dps of the rare.

see? the rare is still best in slot!

everything is fine! right?

good strategy, very balanced...also very "creative" and "ingenious." totally unbelievable creativity on the part of GGG.

nothing to see here folks, just "build enabling" unique items!
Последняя редакция: Veruski#5480. Время: 5 июн. 2014 г., 12:36:15
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Veruski написал:
the rare is still best in slot!


Ah you understand.
No food in fridge... Beer it is.
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bitedefer написал:
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Veruski написал:
the rare is still best in slot!


Ah you understand.


so you support the premise of uniques being created that are 99% as good as a perfectly divined, perfectly rolled rare weapons?

because i don't.

how about 99.99999% as good

what if they were the same as the perfect ones...with 1 dps less?

good unique design, no?
Последняя редакция: Veruski#5480. Время: 5 июн. 2014 г., 12:48:06
So now you guys are arguing degrees of Best in Slot? So there's what, now? Best in Slot, Super Best in Slot, and Double Secret Best in Slot? Doesn't Best mean Nothing is Better?
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Последняя редакция: mark1030#3643. Время: 5 июн. 2014 г., 13:47:31

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