Stopping at 6, Don't Want Your T-Shirt

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Raycheetah написал:
So, RMT.

What do you folks propose GGG do, that it isn't already doing?

Please bear in mind that GGG does not reveal the details of their current efforts against RMT, because that would undermine those very efforts. ='[.]'=


Ray, take off the rose specs.

Do you know, GGG don't monitor D*j*p forums because, well, players are clever enough to use different names.

And because of that, a player can actually use the exact same name on those boards as their PoE account name. They can advertise for FG, items that they also link in GGG's very forum.

They can sell items for FG, advertise in FG -> receive FG offer -> accept FG offer -> remove item from sales list and from GGG thread, receive FG and no longer have the items.

WITH THE SAME FUCKING NAME.

GGG's response?
Well you should report them.
Fuck that, I'm not reporting anyone when GGG won't even do the basics.

Then, when someone (not me) did report them, they get a ban, post on that other forum for people to watch out and warn that I (me TheAnuhart) is lurking and reporting (really funny, this). Admit to being too blatant and careless while knowingly breaking the rules repeatedly over a long period. Brag that they were tipped off and managed to move most stuff to another account. Be told by other posters they can get unbanned if they say they didn't know it was against ToU. And low and behold, the ban must have lasted all of a day as their post history right here had only a 1 day break.

I'll link you the thread, if you want, or just do as I did when someone pm'd me and told me to google
This
"The one who named me was TheAnuhart, he is lurking around on jsp and reporting people to GGG".


What I 'propose they do what they are not already doing', Ray, is either back up their stance and ToU or drop the pretence.

It's the pretence that bugs me.
Casually casual.

IMO they are fighting RMT pretty well. Just look at how much of the spam has disappeared from in game chats and pm's. That alone is more than many big game companies have managed to pull off.

Just because you think they should do this or that differently is not a fair reasoning to say they are doing nothing.
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Boem написал:
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Please explain your reasoning behind this line of (threatening) thinking?


It's not easy to explain but i can give it a go.

desync is real (i know, stop beating the dead horse.)

Given an SFL would have the same drop-rates as currently exist, coupled with
"exponential grind"(because, self-found) and the bullshit dead's that exist, this would yield massive bad player-experiences, thus resulting in less "support".

Just developing this would distract them from what they are doing now, which again would yield bad support for them.

The game is based around the economy, an SFL would require massive efforts in terms of balancing, one might just ask GGG to start developing PoE2 and take the lessons they learned from PoE.

tl;dr : given the current netcode issue's and an sfl based on the original design without alterations massive player qq would be inbound, if it would not, then it would have a very small number of "veteran" players not worth the effort to spend development time on.

Either way, it's a no go.

edit : hmm this is a basic way of explaining it, very basic. A lot more factors come into play, but i think you get the jest of it without me dedicating a page to it.

Peace,

-Boem-


The 'massive development time' is a myth. The means, as shown in short races, already exists.

People would understand the risk they take before signing on, just as they do currently in the hardcore invasion league. It would be more grindy than the default league, without doubt, so it would have to be an elective choice to join.

This voids the "qq" issue.

Guess you might need more than a page to convince me otherwise, man. :)
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HasuKishi написал:
In the case of the Atziri thing. Yes you can buy a service. Is anyone forcing you to? No. Do i believe that there should be a way to stop this Atziri service thing? No. I don't run them, and I have not bought one. I'd rather kill her myself. But I see it as fascinating. Its a similar concept to hiring a plumber fix your pipes. You could do it yourself, but you probably don't know how, and even if you do it'll take a fair bit of time and effort to get the tools and resources. So instead why not pay a guy to do it for you? Similar concept here. Not everyone can do Atziri, some builds simply can't (flameblast ignite, for instance, as she is immune to ignite). Instead they pay a guy who can do it (example, a dual wield blender, those are usually pretty nice at it if the player knows what hes doing) to do it for them. This involves the trading aspect of the game instead of the combat aspect. Nifty.


That's all well and good.

If it didn't qualify you for plumber of the year award.
Casually casual.

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TheAnuhart написал:
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HasuKishi написал:
In the case of the Atziri thing. Yes you can buy a service. Is anyone forcing you to? No. Do i believe that there should be a way to stop this Atziri service thing? No. I don't run them, and I have not bought one. I'd rather kill her myself. But I see it as fascinating. Its a similar concept to hiring a plumber fix your pipes. You could do it yourself, but you probably don't know how, and even if you do it'll take a fair bit of time and effort to get the tools and resources. So instead why not pay a guy to do it for you? Similar concept here. Not everyone can do Atziri, some builds simply can't (flameblast ignite, for instance, as she is immune to ignite). Instead they pay a guy who can do it (example, a dual wield blender, those are usually pretty nice at it if the player knows what hes doing) to do it for them. This involves the trading aspect of the game instead of the combat aspect. Nifty.


That's all well and good.

If it didn't qualify you for plumber of the year award.
The award is simply do all 8 challenges. It is not player of the year or anything like that.

A better comparison would be a "best house" reward. You could build the best home yourself, or simply shell out $$$ to get it, the reward is not mutually exclusive to either scenario.
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Guess you might need more than a page to convince me otherwise, man. :)


Not really.

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if GGG wanted to do it and saw benefit in doing this, it would already exist.


Done.

The only "reasonable" answer to SFL, is a SFL tag in players that disabled certain functions and creating a separate SFL ladder to allow competition in this mode within the already existing league's.

But even then, people will find loopholes and QQ will be inevitable.

Peace,

-Boem-

enjoy the read
also i suggest you reread my earlier post from a multitude of angles, not just your desired goal. Any development time "wasted" (excuse the poor wording) on this league would be viewed as an insult by the non-sfl players, thus resulting in less revenue. And believe me, the QQ would exist, thinking people are "prepared" because they checked a "SFL" box at the start is void, since people QQ when they check the "hardcore" box as well. The QQ would just be harsher since more investment was put into the dead character, resulting in a more rapid "i am the fuck out of here" scenario.
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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Splift написал:
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TheAnuhart написал:
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HasuKishi написал:
In the case of the Atziri thing. Yes you can buy a service. Is anyone forcing you to? No. Do i believe that there should be a way to stop this Atziri service thing? No. I don't run them, and I have not bought one. I'd rather kill her myself. But I see it as fascinating. Its a similar concept to hiring a plumber fix your pipes. You could do it yourself, but you probably don't know how, and even if you do it'll take a fair bit of time and effort to get the tools and resources. So instead why not pay a guy to do it for you? Similar concept here. Not everyone can do Atziri, some builds simply can't (flameblast ignite, for instance, as she is immune to ignite). Instead they pay a guy who can do it (example, a dual wield blender, those are usually pretty nice at it if the player knows what hes doing) to do it for them. This involves the trading aspect of the game instead of the combat aspect. Nifty.


That's all well and good.

If it didn't qualify you for plumber of the year award.
The award is simply do all 8 challenges. It is not player of the year or anything like that.

A better comparison would be a "best house" reward. You could build the best home yourself, or simply shell out $$$ to get it, the reward is not mutually exclusive to either scenario.


Oh. And for the first 50 MTX?

Any way, I'm done, had enough of this pretence and the backing of terrible design, for one day.
Casually casual.

Think of all the development time that went into something that 99% of PoE players will never see?

After all of that, I'm still here supporting. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
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After all of that, I'm still here supporting. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.


I am perfectly fine with that grant.

Peace,

and have a good one, -Boem-

Edit : also, just to note, i would play an SF-league, or a normal league with SF tag's.
I like me some endurance battle's.
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
Последняя редакция: Boem#2861. Время: 18 июн. 2014 г., 19:48:13
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TheAnuhart написал:


Oh. And for the first 50 MTX?

Any way, I'm done, had enough of this pretence and the backing of terrible design, for one day.
The special mtx's were different. Simple game limitations imo. Its difficult for the game to know the difference between a player who is being carried and payed for it as opposed to a fellow team member or supporter.

Its supposed to be a fun challenge anyways and you are taking it too seriously. Even though I never got it or even bothered to try I thought the idea was fun and am glad this game has things like that. The people who rip on GGG (a small indie company) for making small mistakes in situations like these are ridiculous. Would you rather have no challenges at all?

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