the biggest "LIE" of this game...

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He's talking about 73+ map drops being very luck based. While one person can break into the 77s with a few 75s it can take another 30 maps. That is what he means by luck based and inconsistent endgame.

It has nothing to do with items.

Charan is blissfully unaware of this part of the game. And i don't think he has any intention to change that.

This thread is quite funny :).

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kasub написал:

Can someone please explain how there is no build diversity? I would really love to see a logical answer.

The fact that I've created over 10 completely different builds that were all a completely different experience and required different gear/skills/passives kind of points to the game having an abundance of diversity.

The fact that you created 10 of them just show how efficient were they or how fun they were to die with. There is build diversity, there are those 3 good builds, and hundreds more that plain suck compared to the 3 that are good. Problem is, gearing any of the 3 is beyond reach for many players and having 7K dps at lvl 75 is far from fun.

On the other side, most games are like this so there's nothing new here really.

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Ludak021 написал:

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kasub написал:

Can someone please explain how there is no build diversity? I would really love to see a logical answer.

The fact that I've created over 10 completely different builds that were all a completely different experience and required different gear/skills/passives kind of points to the game having an abundance of diversity.

The fact that you created 10 of them just show how efficient were they or how fun they were to die with. There is build diversity, there are those 3 good builds, and hundreds more that plain suck compared to the 3 that are good. Problem is, gearing any of the 3 is beyond reach for many players and having 7K dps at lvl 75 is far from fun.

On the other side, most games are like this so there's nothing new here really.

I listed builds in the next page that have been very successful in nemesis/hc. Try again. Some builds are harder to build than others but there is many cheap and easy builds.

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Cronk написал:

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kasub написал:

I listed builds in the next page that have been very successful in nemesis/hc. Try again. Some builds are harder to build than others but there is many cheap and easy builds.

But dude, you class sticking a different Gem in the socket of a different chestpiece as a different 'build'. It's not a different 'build', it's the same build using different skills and gear.

Are you being sarcastic? If a build has any of these then it's "different":

- Different passive skilltree.
- Different linked skills.
- Different use of unique gear.

All my listed builds just so happen to fit all 3 criteria. They all have different passives, different skills and different uniques.

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CharanJaydemyr написал:

You have evidence they're not intrinsically linked in an ARPG?

I'll give you a short list of similar games that don't require pay-to-level, here we go:
Diablo 1-2-3, Titan Quest, Torchligt 1-2, LoL/Dota 2, etc.

By similar... you have a character, you gear him, level him and kill evil monsters/players.

You don't have to pay to level, your leveling process isn't luck based other than gear drops (I have to write gear slots so we don't get same people claiming that maps are items too).

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I merely respond. Your mouth and the words in it are of no interest to me until they come out.

We can't both respond to a same thing, but alright.

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Again, show me why the two aren't almost synonymous, given the dominance of the trading scene at the upper end right now.

Showed.

There is always going to be heavy overlap. what exactly do you define as a build and how different do you think builds have to be in order to be called unique?

Are you looking at the tree, the gear, the active skills, the playstyle of the active skills or some goopy mess consisting of all 4?

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Cronk написал:

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kasub написал:

Are you being sarcastic? If a build has any of these then it's "different":

- Different passive skilltree.
- Different linked skills.
- Different use of unique gear.

All my listed builds just so happen to fit all 3 criteria. They all have different passives, different skills and different uniques.

No, I'm not being sarcastic.

You're basically saying that every RPG ever made has 'unlimited builds', because every character you make will wear a different item of clothing, hold a different weapon and choose a slightly different passive point.

I'm not talking about two FP builds that decide to take a few different nodes. I'm talking about one FP build deciding to go full block, using ironwill, using a completely different passive skilltree and another going for CI + crit + different links.

I'm also not talking about two different rare chests. I mention "unique" items specifically since they can be build defining. Whether you use shavronne, cloak of defiance or lightning coil they're all built very differently.

All the builds I have made played very differently and did quite good. There is still many more.

I haven't been on forums for a couple of weeks, wtf has happened? I just read page 1 and almost puked.