How many divination cards are actually helping gameplay and how many are just trolls?

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Boem написал:

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Kranyum написал:

So divination cards were supposed to help players *farm* specific items instead of trading for them right? And by items I suppose the point here is useful items such as key uniques or maybe 6L items.

I feel the need to point out that your entire premise is based on an assumption.

The community made the assumption that divi cards where aimed at SF.

They are solely aimed at targeted farming, nowhere did GGG state they where supposed to be for SF players. That would be foolish since there entire game system isn't based on SF, so introducing a feature targeted at that would not greatly improve the game, since it would only add value for a select sub-group of people.

There also needs to be a distinction between GGG developed divi cards and community made cards, where the later are mostly fail cards since one cannot assume a community member to have a grasp on balance or how to design a game feature(they are after all, normal players and not game designers by nature)

Now do divi cards perform there targeted aim? Targeted farming that is.

In my opinion they do. Within the current game system one can greatly increase his odds at a certain goal if a divi card is available for achieving that goal.

Do they help SF players? Again, the answer is yes, they are not aimed at them but they still provide a clear advantage in attaining a goal if desired.

Do they offer additional gameplay elements to the game?

Again, the answer is yes. Since the cards are under influence of community based evaluation when it comes to economic value, they offer a gameplay element where one can aim at a divi card goal that is not held in high regards by the community, but where you personally might have found a use for.

I know some people for example that have made a 6-link astral plate(justicar card) for the equivalent value of roughly 8 exalts.

Now given current economic value's that equates to roughly 500 fuses, where a normal 6-link is targeted at a value of around 1200-1500 fuses. I am sure these people greatly appreciate the existence of divi cards since it allowed them to attain a goal at a far cheaper farm-rate then before.

Most cards you consider a troll, do have potential value under the right circumstances.

The currency aimed cards can be purchased for a value under the combined total of the goal currency produced, thus creating an economic advantage. One needs to spend time to gather them, which is the
trade-off.

Similarly the jewelry cards are a basis for making the regal recipe, again a secondary utility past the intent of the card. Which if utilized properly gives a solid advantage.

But like i stated, your premise is wrong and thus this thread holds little relevance.

It's not because some players cannot find a solid utility/use for certain cards that this holds true for the entire community, thus i think you deem them "troll" much to early :).

Peace,

-Boem-

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allbusiness написал:

'Targeted Farming' implies 'possible to find'. Some of the card drop rates are so low that you could farm literally for days and not see more than one copy of the card.

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Crackmonster написал:

It's still a lot of them that are troll.

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Cyzax написал:

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Crackmonster написал:

It's still a lot of them that are troll.

No, they're not 'troll' cards... they're just drops you don't like. By your definition, that also means that every worthless white or blue item dropping that you don't pick up is a 'troll' item.

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Crackmonster написал:

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Boem написал:

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allbusiness написал:

'Targeted Farming' implies 'possible to find'. Some of the card drop rates are so low that you could farm literally for days and not see more than one copy of the card.

And this is off-point or wrong, why exactly?

Targeted farming doesn't imply "easy to farm" or "faster to farm".

It imply's you dedicate your resources (in this case time) towards a single goal. Which is exactly what they make possible.

If people foolishly assumed divi cards where going to make farming certain items exponentially more easily, then that is on them, not on GGG.

Peace,

-Boem-