How would you feel if all Leech was changed to flat values

if they nerf leech right now HP builds will surely be dead for good, as we have basically no other means to survive anything that doesn't one shot you to begin with.

its ghost reaver thats the problem. give ghost reaver the same thing acrobatics has. life leech applies to energy shield, 35% less energy shield. boom done

now you can leech your ES instantly all you want but you'll be put into one shot levels of ES to balance things out. cause lets be honest, thats all GGG is doing to balance out the amount of power all these ascendancy's skills etc are giving us...one shots.

Q: everybody kills everything in one hit, and with that comes instant leech so ppl are almost immortal, what can we do about it?
A: make it so mobs can kill characters in one hit regardless of anything. DO IT.

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xMustard написал:

give ghost reaver the same thing acrobatics has. life leech applies to energy shield, 35% less energy shield. boom done

now you can leech your ES instantly all you want but you'll be put into one shot levels of ES to balance things out.

That's actually a pretty neat idea maybe you can cross post it to Feedback and Suggestions

people like I_NO who have godly tier gear to get 17k ES will still be able to have over 10k ES total so it wouldn't really affect them much, but it owuld take a whole lot more to get there

so it wouldn't completely stop the problem, just make it a lot more exclusive

BTW I dunno how you feel about F+S forum but a lot of suggestions I made actually got implemented in one form or another. Not sure if I actually had some influence in the distance past or if it was a coincidence but IMO it's worth a shot to post there.

Anyone interested can PM me and I will PM back about which Suggestions I made got implemented. May take time for me to look them up as I am lazy lazy lazy.

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xMustard написал:

people like I_NO who have godly tier gear to get 17k ES will still be able to have over 10k ES total so it wouldn't really affect them much, but it owuld take a whole lot more to get there

so it wouldn't completely stop the problem, just make it a lot more exclusive

"godly tier gear" and player skill/knowledge should let you trivialize the game. That's the whole point of games like these, in my opinion.

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xMustard написал:

give ghost reaver the same thing acrobatics has. life leech applies to energy shield, 35% less energy shield. boom done

now you can leech your ES instantly all you want but you'll be put into one shot levels of ES to balance things out.

That's actually a pretty neat idea maybe you can cross post it to Feedback and Suggestions

Sounds dumb.
Ghost reaver is specific to energy shield the same way acrobatics is specific to evasion.
Imagine if acrobatics had 35% less evasion on it. Would be pretty stupid wouldn't you think?

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xMustard написал:

people like I_NO who have godly tier gear to get 17k ES will still be able to have over 10k ES total so it wouldn't really affect them much, but it owuld take a whole lot more to get there

so it wouldn't completely stop the problem, just make it a lot more exclusive

Exclusive? That's dumb I'll just switch to a burst build if I'm not going to face tank with god tier gear then I'll just murder the thing before it even touches me.

Like honestly Rory's balance right now honestly better then what the fuck you're suggesting. If you won't let me tank by all means.

I'll simply switch to a DPS god build even if Poison double dip etc is killed I'll always find a way to exploit the game simply because I have the gear to do so every league lol you're just making it into a fucking circle.

Whatever meta works eventually all of people like you just want everything gone where everything is fucking trash ''dawg'' Shit I'm 100% sure Rory has the common sense to understand they don't wanna do that hence Blade vortex is the way it is.

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adghar написал:

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xMustard написал:

give ghost reaver the same thing acrobatics has. life leech applies to energy shield, 35% less energy shield. boom done

now you can leech your ES instantly all you want but you'll be put into one shot levels of ES to balance things out.

That's actually a pretty neat idea maybe you can cross post it to Feedback and Suggestions

Sounds dumb.
Ghost reaver is specific to energy shield the same way acrobatics is specific to evasion.
Imagine if acrobatics had 35% less evasion on it. Would be pretty stupid wouldn't you think?

I am sometimes glad GGG does not listen to the forums at all.

Most high end ES builds utilizing skyforth and other key uniques will peak around 10,000 ES. A 35% nerf makes them 6500. Who would play a 6,500 ES build and still need to worry about stun and freeze when life builds can already reach 6000-6500 comfortably without worrying about stun or freeze.

Even at 12,000 ES you still only have 7.800 ES and your gear and tree investment would need to be exceptional at that point.

Please, just remove CI and ES in general from the game at this point if you want to give it to coc incinerate treatment.

Yeah at the single point there you just play life with a very high burst build like basically you effectively destroyed ES right there.

So not only did you not solve of problem now both ES and life are dick garbage the only way play now is very high burst DPS effectively not really doing anything but piss of the majority players.

right now im just hoping the gap gets balanced between HP and ES. either cut ES levels down to HP levels, or raise HP levels up to ES.

i honestly don't give a flying fuck which.

heres another suggestion for you. CI node makes it so you can't leech. you can grab up ghost reaver all you want but you're forced into low life. suck it


EDIT: just to sum up I_NO's posts from all around the other threads, and everyone elses as well on this matter, we have two ways of playing this game.
#1 you get enough DPS to kill everything before it has a chance to hit you
#2 you get enough ES (not possible with life) to survive anything that hits you and ghost reaver+VP. doesn't matter what your DPS is.

so either high DPS or high ES. this is currently the only way to survive this game and actually do all content.