How would you feel if all Leech was changed to flat values

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xMustard написал:

right now im just hoping the gap gets balanced between HP and ES. either cut ES levels down to HP levels, or raise HP levels up to ES.

i honestly don't give a flying fuck which.

heres another suggestion for you. CI node makes it so you can't leech. you can grab up ghost reaver all you want but you're forced into low life. suck it

See now you're just pushing things that's not how it works dude LOL thank fucking god they won't listen to you holy shit the disaster.

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xMustard написал:

right now im just hoping the gap gets balanced between HP and ES. either cut ES levels down to HP levels, or raise HP levels up to ES.

i honestly don't give a flying fuck which.

You don't give a fuck?

If you don't give a fuck, why should something be changed? You have to decide, by PLAYING both types of builds end game; is ES too strong, or life too weak. If you can't decide, or have no interest of trying, then please stop debating the matter.

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I_NO написал:

See now you're just pushing things that's not how it works dude LOL thank fucking god they won't listen to you holy shit the disaster.

actually the current way ES works is not how it was supposed to work. ES is essentially the exact same as HP right now. the only thing it doesn't have is potions, which really don't aid much in the grand scheme of things.
it was supposed to grant you higher values due to its lack of ways to regenerate, but now-a-days it has the same ways to regenerate (even superior actually) yet still retains twice the amount of values. that shit isn't right.

you talk a whole lot of shit and never offer suggestions of your own. it literally wouldn't affect you anyway because you make enough currency every league to follow the coat trails of whatever is OP. you'll always have what is strong

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Phrazz написал:

You don't give a fuck?

If you don't give a fuck, why should something be changed? You have to decide, by PLAYING both types of builds end game; is ES too strong, or life too weak. If you can't decide, or have no interest of trying, then please stop debating the matter.

its one or the other based on other factors. right now damage is out of control so life is too weak in that you basically can never get tanky enough. this means instant life leech is required to immediately fully recover anything that doesn't one shot you because you can't afford to take two-three hits.
however that mechanic for ES is way too strong, to a point where you basically can't die because with ES you can get enough pool to survive anything. follow along buddy theres more than just one point in play here

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xMustard написал:

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I_NO написал:

See now you're just pushing things that's not how it works dude LOL thank fucking god they won't listen to you holy shit the disaster.

actually the current way ES works is not how it was supposed to work. ES is essentially the exact same as HP right now. the only thing it doesn't have is potions, which really don't aid much in the grand scheme of things.
it was supposed to grant you higher values due to its lack of ways to regenerate, but now-a-days it has the same ways to regenerate (even superior actually) yet still retains twice the amount of values. that shit isn't right.

you talk a whole lot of shit and never offer suggestions of your own. it literally wouldn't affect you anyway because you make enough currency every league to follow the coat trails of whatever is OP. you'll always have what is strong

It does affect me because I won't quit sure but a lot of people will do you know how that happens stupid shit happens like what you're suggesting and if people quit I can't market effectively if there's less people like do not think of any of the backlash or any the domino effect it can have?

Every single decision of the core gameplay affects everyone like fuck dude every choice every single thing that they change always affects things.

And I'm not even talking shit if I was talking shit I'd be full elitist mode and I'll assume you've never high end content or even touched shaper or even a T16 map for that matter see that's talking shit right now I'm just trying to teach you shit lol

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xMustard написал:

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I_NO написал:

See now you're just pushing things that's not how it works dude LOL thank fucking god they won't listen to you holy shit the disaster.

actually the current way ES works is not how it was supposed to work. ES is essentially the exact same as HP right now. the only thing it doesn't have is potions, which really don't aid much in the grand scheme of things.
it was supposed to grant you higher values due to its lack of ways to regenerate, but now-a-days it has the same ways to regenerate (even superior actually) yet still retains twice the amount of values. that shit isn't right.

you talk a whole lot of shit and never offer suggestions of your own. it literally wouldn't affect you anyway because you make enough currency every league to follow the coat trails of whatever is OP. you'll always have what is strong

The game has changed. There was a time when GGG thought a game model of players slowly casting skel totem into a room before proceeding was a model people would actually play.

ES that cant leech is worthless in the current game state of burst damage and crippling map mods.
You don't understand end game, you don't understand the ridiculous amount of damage the game throws at you nor do you understand that GGG has done nothing but continuously nerf player defenses in the name of 'balance' for the past 2 years and will gladly take the chance in 3.0 to cripple players even further.

Given a choice between buffing life or nerfing ES to the ground, it is clear they will always do the latter.

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I_NO написал:

Every single decision of the core gameplay affects everyone like fuck dude every choice every single thing that they change always affects things.

ya? and im sure people quit from the FIX to blade vortex (wasn't a nerf). so what?

its for the core game. just because some people will get mad that their build got nerfed and leave doesn't mean they should leave broken ass things in the game.
if thats the case then i want my double legacy BoR 98% physical avoidance and 92% spell avoidance ranger blender back in the game. give me that back or i'll whine and cry and quit.

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Nephalim написал:

The game has changed. There was a time when GGG thought a game model of players slowly casting skel totem into a room before proceeding was a model people would actually play.

ES that cant leech is worthless in the current game state of burst damage and crippling map mods.

i agree the game has changed. but what you're saying then, essentially is keep the high instant leech ES. so the only fix i see from that then is to raise HP values by 80% or so. that way its on the same-ish level

You're not even understanding anything of what we just told you dude lol It's like w/e the fuck we say it like just passes through you and you're like ??????????????????????????????

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xMustard написал:

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I_NO написал:

Every single decision of the core gameplay affects everyone like fuck dude every choice every single thing that they change always affects things.

ya? and im sure people quit from the FIX to blade vortex (wasn't a nerf). so what?

its for the core game. just because some people will get mad that their build got nerfed and leave doesn't mean they should leave broken ass things in the game.
if thats the case then i want my double legacy BoR 98% physical avoidance and 92% spell avoidance ranger blender back in the game. give me that back or i'll whine and cry and quit.

Blade vortex was a single, intentionally overpowered fotm SKILL.

What you're talking about destroys 99% end game build in the game.

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i agree the game has changed. but what you're saying then, essentially is keep the high instant leech ES. so the only fix i see from that then is to raise HP values by 80% or so. that way its on the same-ish level

Then why would anyone play ES. ES values must be higher than life to compensate for stun and freeze.

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I_NO написал:

You're not even understanding anything of what we just told you dude lol It's like w/e the fuck we say it like just passes through you and you're like ??????????????????????????????

riveting tale ole chap

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xMustard написал:

if thats the case then i want my double legacy BoR 98% physical avoidance

dear god. Is that 75% dodge 75% block 68% evasion? that's massive.

btw slight nitpick it's not physical avoidance it's Attack avoidance. there's no avoidance mecchanicc for physical in this game