[3.10] Gryph's Volatile Dead Necromancer || Fun, Medium Budget, Tanky, Millions of DPS

You mention several times on the recent leveling discussion that you would sometime take out spell cascade to one shot more reliably packs, or that without spell cascade the gameplay is not "too bad".

I imagine once I will have played the build i'll understand what you mean, but can you expand on how taking out spell cascade can be helpful to one shot packs?

Edit, the quote I'm refering too:
- Without spell Cascade it's actually not TOO bad. Which is why I originally went with that method.
-I also keep finding myself dropping spell cascade from VD for a while so that I can 1-shot packs reliably.

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Rootsmann написал:

Excuse me for not quoting exactly what you said earlier, I'm on the phone and not so good at editing here.

You mention several times on the recent leveling discussion that you would sometime take out spell cascade to one shot more reliably packs, or that without spell cascade the gameplay is not "too bad".

I imagine once I will have played the build i'll understand what you mean, but can you expand on how taking out spell cascade can be helpful to one shot packs?

Spell cascade has a less damage multiplier and replacing it with a different support with a More multiplier will make each individual ball deal nearly double the damage per ball. So they explode and packs actually die properly.

I still add cascade as the 4th link though as by that point your damage is quite good. Probably.

How do you feel about starting with cwc from the get go instead of transitioning into it later on?

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Gryphenprey написал:

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Rootsmann написал:

Excuse me for not quoting exactly what you said earlier, I'm on the phone and not so good at editing here.

You mention several times on the recent leveling discussion that you would sometime take out spell cascade to one shot more reliably packs, or that without spell cascade the gameplay is not "too bad".

I imagine once I will have played the build i'll understand what you mean, but can you expand on how taking out spell cascade can be helpful to one shot packs?

Spell cascade has a less damage multiplier and replacing it with a different support with a More multiplier will make each individual ball deal nearly double the damage per ball. So they explode and packs actually die properly.

I still add cascade as the 4th link though as by that point your damage is quite good. Probably.

Ok so just a raw number problem. I was figuring something more complex with the way corpse are being consumed in a cascade or something along those lines.. Sorry for the basic question then :D

Edit: I'm so excited to level up this build tonight!!! A sadist Necro that blow things up by "accident" while walking. So badass.

What mods would the perfect staff have for you? I was thinking about something like ...

- (Prefix) Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Cast While Channelling
- (Prefix) (84–87)% increased Spell Damage + Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Power Charge On Critical Strike
- (Aetheric Fossil Prefix) +3 to Level of all Fire Spell Skill Gems
- (Suffix) (100–109)% increased Critical Strike Chance for Spells
- (Suffix) (20–21)% increased Attack Speed + 20% chance to deal Double Damage
- (Crafted Suffix) (8–10)% chance to deal Double Damage

More realistic for the new league would be something multi modded probably with alt spamming for:
- (Prefix) Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Cast While Channelling
- (Prefix) (84–87)% increased Spell Damage + Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Power Charge On Critical Strike
Then Imprint + Regal to hit something usefull (Spell Damage, Spell Crit, Double Damage) and Multi Mod 2 other things.

As to people who wanna start with CWC, I tested it the other day and it's not that bad.
The obvious downside is that you're devoting 4 links to non damage support gems cyclone, cwc, desecrate and vd (i guess cwc gives a little) but for me personally it still didn't feel to bad with self found gear, i did have quite a bit of added fire damage on my gear tho, so maybe I was just lucky or maybe my standards for damage aren#t too high.
I feel like damage is only secondary here tho for leveling and CWC just gives you so muich mobility and since you're not using Doedre's yet the mana cost is also super low for cyclone.
Two ways to vastly improve your damage is either to somehow get super lucky and get a 6 socketed (only 4 links necessary) whispering ice staff (pretty unlikely) or, more likely to find a way to add chaos or phys damage to your spells (herald of purity is a guaranteed way), now you can apply poison with herald of agony and going minion nodes is very easy early acts.

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shokilicious написал:

What mods would the perfect staff have for you? I was thinking about something like ...

- (Prefix) Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Cast While Channelling
- (Prefix) (84–87)% increased Spell Damage + Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Power Charge On Critical Strike
- (Aetheric Fossil Prefix) +3 to Level of all Fire Spell Skill Gems
- (Suffix) (100–109)% increased Critical Strike Chance for Spells
- (Suffix) (20–21)% increased Attack Speed + 20% chance to deal Double Damage
- (Crafted Suffix) (8–10)% chance to deal Double Damage

More realistic for the new league would be something multi modded probably with alt spamming for:
- (Prefix) Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Cast While Channelling
- (Prefix) (84–87)% increased Spell Damage + Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Power Charge On Critical Strike
Then Imprint + Regal to hit something usefull (Spell Damage, Spell Crit, Double Damage) and Multi Mod 2 other things.

The mod:

- (Prefix) (84–87)% increased Spell Damage + Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Power Charge On Critical Strike

Was removed

This is probably my last post before the league starts.

While CWC leveling is ok with a 6L, I dont recommend for the league start. I did a test run last night for acts 1-5 + Normal lab in about 2 1/2 hours. 30 min per act is good for me, I'm not very fast. Lol

Freeze Pulse to 4

SRS-summon phantasm on kill(melee splash works here as well I think) - Minion damage to 18.

By level 18 I had the mental rapidity cluster and EO. Started self cast VD. Felt amazing with the cast speed clusters. Immediately went for Dark Arts for more speed+movement cdr.

You can look at my character Deadified if you'd like to look over the character. Level 41, A5 complete.

The thread has an updated section for early league leveling tricks etc...be sure to check that out. The above info is not all implemented (typing from my phone, not editing main post from here) but the leveling tree PoB is correct. I suggest the cast speed one if you want to level as VD.

GL everyone! See you in like a day when I'm back to looking at this. ;)

how hard will it be to get scolds at league start?

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Banit написал:

how hard will it be to get scolds at league start?

Theres usually a decent number on the market after a couple days.