Why dedicate my time if I can lose all my XP with a death penalty?

It's fun to read these threads as a HC player.

I'm neither for or against it really, i couldn't care less but the penalty makes more sense as to giving players a clear indicator that "yo, you should maybe try something easier." since people tend to take the whole smash-your-head-into-it-until-you-get-through approach.

GGG has spoken and XP penalty is here to stay. I still don't like it, and never will. So i'll stay out of the game still, and wait for their next update and see if it's worth iy to come back to.

I will not push for removal of xp penalty anymore if the GGG gods have said it will stay. Their game and their choice, they believe that is what is best for everyone.

Gratz to pro XP penalty peeps. Here's to the hope of other awesome changes to come to POE 2! Cheers!

I've got 3 characters to level 80 now. By being a leech. I'll join a group where the leader is running a META build and has hundreds of stones to burn, and I'll just hang back and leech XP. If I go anywhere near the front where he is I die instantly and loose the XP. So the game rewards me for letting you do al the dangerous work.

Is that fun? no. But thats the only way to progress if your not running a Meta Monk build.

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KingDaMuncha#6025 написал:

I've got 3 characters to level 80 now. By being a leech. I'll join a group where the leader is running a META build and has hundreds of stones to burn, and I'll just hang back and leech XP. If I go anywhere near the front where he is I die instantly and loose the XP. So the game rewards me for letting you do al the dangerous work.

Is that fun? no. But thats the only way to progress if your not running a Meta Monk build.

My first char was off-meta build Gemling Legionaire with crossbow, 80% evasion and 3.2k life without any ES/MoM, of course all res 75% including chaos res. It's now lv 97, can reach lv 100 just by keep grinding for maybe 2-3 weeks.

Just made my fourth char and it was also off-meta build Deadeye with crossbow, 82% evasion and 2.4k life, and I reached lv 90 after 20 hours with like 2-3 deaths (Of course with currency + gear help from the first char).

Just keep playing and try to get better with the game until you can create a good build yourself, you'll eventually see that meta is not the only option and leveling is very easy. But don't expect it to be easy from the start or without some efforts.

Dont lie to me. I've got both those characters at level 80 and theres no way to have stats like that.

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KingDaMuncha#6025 написал:

Dont lie to me. I've got both those characters at level 80 and theres no way to have stats like that.

Here you go.
https://imgur.com/vM5RD2d
https://imgur.com/uphknVp
20 hours was with ~4 hours of afk, the actual time I played was ~15 hours, all soloing, no party. And I'm having no issues with surviving at all, even with 0 ES 0 MoM build. Except in super extra damage / pen elemental res/ elemental weakness maps.
Oh and 82% evasion was with Acrobatics, without it it's 94%.
https://imgur.com/FGnjlPg

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KingDaMuncha#6025 написал:

I've got 3 characters to level 80 now. By being a leech. I'll join a group where the leader is running a META build and has hundreds of stones to burn, and I'll just hang back and leech XP. If I go anywhere near the front where he is I die instantly and loose the XP. So the game rewards me for letting you do al the dangerous work.

Is that fun? no. But thats the only way to progress if your not running a Meta Monk build.

That is the most insane wrong shit i've ever read on this forum ever. No, you can progress if you know how to make a build, you dont HAVE to play a meta build, you dont HAVE to copy and paste what some other person did for you. You're a human...you can do things on you're own ya know? You can take something that seems interesting to you and *GASP* learn to make it work somehow. Imagine that.

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frazency#2974 написал:

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KingDaMuncha#6025 написал:

Dont lie to me. I've got both those characters at level 80 and theres no way to have stats like that.

Here you go.
https://imgur.com/vM5RD2d
https://imgur.com/uphknVp
20 hours was with ~4 hours of afk, the actual time I played was ~15 hours, all soloing, no party. And I'm having no issues with surviving at all, even with 0 ES 0 MoM build. Except in super extra damage / pen elemental res/ elemental weakness maps.
Oh and 82% evasion was with Acrobatics, without it it's 94%.
https://imgur.com/FGnjlPg

How about you try again in a full party where the monsters are 300% more difficult.

And the only gear you get is what you picked up way back in Act3 Normal.

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KingDaMuncha#6025 написал:

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frazency#2974 написал:

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KingDaMuncha#6025 написал:

Dont lie to me. I've got both those characters at level 80 and theres no way to have stats like that.

Here you go.
https://imgur.com/vM5RD2d
https://imgur.com/uphknVp
20 hours was with ~4 hours of afk, the actual time I played was ~15 hours, all soloing, no party. And I'm having no issues with surviving at all, even with 0 ES 0 MoM build. Except in super extra damage / pen elemental res/ elemental weakness maps.
Oh and 82% evasion was with Acrobatics, without it it's 94%.
https://imgur.com/FGnjlPg

How about you try again in a full party where the monsters are 300% more difficult.

And the only gear you have is what you picked up way back in Act3 Normal.

I don't understand your point. We all had the same start in this league. My first char is lv 97, and I have a lv 90 char with 20 hours played. This thread is about XP penalty on death, the struggles on leveling, also you said that we must follow a meta build or leech exp to level up, which I proved is wrong.

And party play is actually easier/gives more benefit than solo play, else no1 would play in a party. You're just not good enough yet. So try to get better with the game if you want to, else stop complaining I guess. It's not that hard. Just put some efforts into it if you want to be good at it.

I'll complain as much as I like Mr "I ONLY palyed 20 hours today"