What are your thoughts on the current amount of death penalties in game

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Toforto#2372 написал:

Utter trash. Worst game design I've ever seen in my life. And it is making people quit en masse.

More than half of the players gone in 1 month of EA, and I don't even wanna know what chunk of the current numbers are just bots lol

Also according to steam numbers the game was peaking 350k last week, now its sitting at around 250k-270k max. People are either finally finishing campaign and leaving for the next shiny new game, or they reached endgame and saw how horrible it is and just how much this game utterly disrespects the player's time. Like this kind of stuff just isn't going to work in 2025. Losing exp on death? Are we in the early 2000s of MMOs again? Forcing Softcore players to play in essentially Hardcore every map because they lose it on death? Wow that sure is a quick way to make people quit your game. Softcore players choose that mode because they hate the idea of losing hours of progress on-death, or even losing any progress at all on death. How is this so hard to understand?

This game does everything in its power to double-down and kick the player while they're down with all these meaningless,outdated death penalties. They all need to go yesterday.


Losing a boss invitation that took you hundreds of hours and like 700 maps to farm up because a "gotcha mechanic" happened that you've never seen before? Guess all those hours you spent farming citadels were for nothing and you don't get to learn the boss at all. It's so bad I don't have the words to describe it.

It all either has to change and be made opt-in, or put into a hardcore mode or whatever. If it doesn't this game is going to keep losing players. Literally just let people choose if they want to play with these death penalties or not, difficulty settings are some of the most basic things in any game and seems like PoE 2 is in desperate need of some.

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Toforto#2372 написал:

More than half of the players gone in 1 month of EA, and I don't even wanna know what chunk of the current numbers are just bots lol

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Benbass#3214 написал:

I agree with every paragraphs of this comment, it's cathartic. I feel like I am playing some difficulty old NES game without a save. The lack of respect for the player's time is enraging.

POE2 is not a better game by making us waste time when the game is more than a 200 hours long to complete. GGG should work on a decent crafting system instead of making us rely on the shitty trading system to get good gear, especially while leveling.

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deserttfoxx#7457 написал:

If i recall correctly, the death penalties in POE 1 were as follows:
10% Exp loss
loss of map after 6 DEATHS used
loss of fragments after 6 portals

The current death penalties in POE 2 are as follows:
10% EXP Loss
Loss of map after 1 death
Loss of mechanic (ritual, expedition) after 1 death
Loss of basic map boss
loss of fragments
loss of loot

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deserttfoxx#7457 написал:

Its why hardcore has log out macros and a lack of build diversity. IN what way has adding all of these punishments for death improved the end game?

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deserttfoxx#7457 написал:

In POE 1, if you over juiced a map, you could go in there and nip at it and at least leave with some loot to recoup your losses, here, you look away from your screen for a second a die and poof thats it. Cat jumped on your keyboard? Whelp there goes all your investment. Why must the end game mapping process be so sweaty?

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Snorkle_uk#0761 написал:

after hearing jonathan talk about the xp penalty in the interview with ghaz and darth, can be heard here btw

https://youtu.be/pj8FxWMf4V4?t=688


i get why he wants the xp penalty for the lvl100 race, hes probably right.