So melee still sucks, can we get a comment from GGG?

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Startkabels написал:

Stopped reading again: It is you that is being very ignorant and I will tell you again: The fact that armor works for RT/Life Marauder/Templar with only defensive passives using Granites, Endurance charges and Enfeeble and just survives those Vaal/Kole slams that way doesn't say anything.

Please open your eyes and stop being a self centered prick.

'only defensive passives' no ... I didnt even take ANY armor passives except the ones of leather and steel and thats for the ignore move penalties ... i just prioritised armor on gear thats all. Theres even hybrid gear if you dont want armor only and need ES.

So let me get this straight before I straight up bash my head against the wall ... because the game OFFERS you defensive skills like arctic armor, auras, endurance charges, immortal call, enfeeble, and flasks like granite / max res flasks etc, and you dont want to USE them, you call the game's defenses 'broken' and 'unbalanced' ... wtf kind of reasoning is that?

'self centered prick' right back at ya .... un friggin believable!

Oh now "defense" means armor?

Man this is pointless

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Everybody knows that cookie cutter Marauders ignore armor nodes in their passive tree. You know why? Because armor SUCKS! I was obviously talking mainly about life.

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Startkabels написал:

Oh now "defense" means armor?

Man this is pointless

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Everybody knows that cookie cutter Marauders ignore armor nodes in their passive tree. You know why? Because armor SUCKS! I was obviously talking mainly about life.

the only thing that sucks is your scrub attitude

'mainly talking about life' .... hahaha yeah every SINGLE build in existence in poe is taking as much life (or ES if CI / ES builds) nodes as possible in their tree. Keep ph4iling!

You already wasted enough of my time anyways

Pff no obviously I am talking about your cookie cutter Marauder you are always referring to. In fact I explicitly mentioned that in my posts above?

Yes CI/ES is the other default build indeed which obviously does not require life, but it also does not use granites or Endurance charges now does it?

You are just always trolling and deliberately misunderstanding people.

Really, WTF is wrong with you?

Just close this nonsense TROLL THREAT. pls.

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Startkabels написал:

Yes CI/Life is the other default build indeed which obviously does not require life, but it also does not use granites or Endurance charges now does it?

wtf kind of pathetic strawman argument is that? lol since when are enduring cry and granite flasks incompatible with ES? Do you realise your fallacies? Do you repeat stuff in your head and listen to how it sounds before posting it?

''Yes CI/Life is the other default build indeed which obviously does not require life'' --> CI / life is a hybrid build, it would obviously ALSO require life nodes investment. Damn are you just trolling now or did your IQ go swimming or something and left you alone at home? CI builds dont need life, but they need ES nodes, which is the EXACT same thing as hp for es. Its their buffer, their health pool. Learn what these things mean plx

And CI also has something life cannot get to offset this ... stupidly high instant leech from vaal pact + bigger health pool (almost 2x) than hp. CI builds are all crit, end of story = big dmg. And ES = care for pots and regen = vaal pact = instant stupidly insane high life leech, with the exception of RF, except with shavronnes ring which will become very available in standard as more OS chars die, so also nearly all will have VP. Look at crit shadow and bow crit builds and dischargers etc, they CARE for armor block etc and just aggro everything, even reflect packs, cuz of VAAL PACT and 5-9k ES.

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HeroOfExile написал:

Just close this nonsense TROLL THREAT. pls.

what troll is being threatened? lol :P

im sure you mean THREAD, bro :P

@JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal: Read again: CI/Life OF COURSE should be CI/ES, already corrected that. Sad that you are so autistics that you really think I meant CI/Life that is absolutely lame. And then you are going to explain to me how CI/Life will not work. Seriously???

There is nothing wrong with the thread: My opinion is that melee is getting better with all the changes GGG has been introducing.

However the changes are more like workaround, for example the monster damage reduction and the improved player damage nodes etc.

However nothing changed regarding armor mechanics and playing as Marauder/Templar you still have to heavily and mainly focus on defensive passives (that is life, elemental resist, shield block but NOT armor) because of that and because the Marauder/Templar trees just suck and need an update atm.

That is the reason I switched to Duelist (with ranger passives) to take advantage of those buffed/new life nodes in the changed ranger area so I can also focus on some offensive stats.

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Startkabels написал:

@JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal: Read again: CI/Life OF COURSE should be CI/ES, already corrected that. Sad that you are so autistics that you really think I meant CI/Life that is absolutely lame. And then you are going to explain to me how CI/Life will not work. Seriously???

lol at rage

The short of it is; Range will almost always be safer than melee, that's assuming same player skill and equivalent gear. This is a tough case since someone will generally defend it pipe in saying a certain range build is inferior to a certain melee build.

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JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal написал:

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Startkabels написал:

@JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal: Read again: CI/Life OF COURSE should be CI/ES, already corrected that. Sad that you are so autistics that you really think I meant CI/Life that is absolutely lame. And then you are going to explain to me how CI/Life will not work. Seriously???

lol at rage

You call that a rage? Are you going to report me again? I laughed my ass of when you explained how CI/Life works though.