So melee still sucks, can we get a comment from GGG?

Well,the Game is awesome. But each time then I return I see very slow progress in Development Manifesto . I'd like to mention several moments which I dislike in POE playing ONLY melee characters:
1. Tanking mechanics - this is just terrible. Every pack of mobs started with Warlord mark or Endurance Cry. And after that - look and check left upper side of the screen every 10 seconds...
2. Desincs are killing most fun melee builds (cyclone, WB etc.)(50% of melee skills do not work correctly). No life leech in the middle of the pack - you dead man. BTW, It's also in Development Manifesto almost for 7 months why I can see mostly micro-transaction things in each patchnotes.
3. No movement control attributes for NPC like in D3 (walls)
3. Mana Regen - could you give me some advice, how to manage it. Even 3 notable nodes do not give me noticeable changes. Only way I can manage it somehow using Clarity buff.

That first point: Totally agree with that.

Super annoying having to keep buffing armor because it sux.

"Oh a boss, wait just a second" *pop Granite *spam Endurance *spam curse

"Oke, ready now, bring it on!"

Pop Granite = 0 seconds invested. You just press a button, there is no animation and it doesn't stop the gameplay like EC does. Even your hated CI characters use these. They are however not necessary against every mob you encounter, if you have that impression it might by that you miss some base armour. JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal is right: Armour isn't useless. Try playing without it and get raped by white apes. May I ask what's your highest character? I don't care about the league, just the level. You talk as if you know everything better, yet it isn't unlikely that someone has more knowledge than a newer player in a game as complex as PoE...You even wrote in your other thread that you aren't the most experienced player. -.-

Oh, and to give you another idea what is a nice defense: Use Eldritch Battery to power Arctic Armour constantly. With around 10k armour you will take little to no damage from many monsters, unless they crit.

Agains white apes? If those hit me I can just drink a life flask after 20 hits?

Without buffs, armor is useless when it is needed most, that is a known fact.

BTW: 0 seconds, yeah right if you don't press the wrong button because then you're screwed. And in the case of Vaal: Only a granite is not even sufficient, so make that a couple of seconds.
Also it is just very annoying having to keep buffing your armor.

Mine build Level 87 HC duelist, cyclone:
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAAdwEswUtDPcUTRZvGS4ZhRoyGjgb-h0UJKol3yftKLUyCTbpOuE8LUCgRJ5Hfkz_TeNQUFFgU7tT31RJValVxlhjWNtZ818_YEtgiGVNZp5uaXKpdO14DXq4eu982YM4hNmE74jxjM-PRpBVl7SZK5uDogCkGaZXp4SpbqmVq8WsWayqrK-suq6Tr2ywc7Xytz653b2Bvoq-p7_VwA_AGsT2xYrGrsbYz2XQ0NJN1I_jaudS52Pp1ey27w7vTu988B_x9PIv8kXz3fZI-tL-Cv6P


TOP #4 Duelist in HC build and which is pure melee (LendoKaar's build)
Heavy strike + melee splash
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAAdwEswUtFE0WbxkuGjIaOBv6HRQkqiXfJ-0otTIJNuk64TwtQKBEnkd-TeNQUFFgU7tT31RJValVxlhjWNtZ818_YEtgiGVNZp5uaXKpdO14DXq4eu982YTZhO-I8YzPj0aQVZe0mSubg6IApBmmV6eEqW6plavFrFmsqqyvrLquk7BztfK3PrndvYG-ir6nv9XAD8AaxPbGrsbYz2XQ0NJN1I_jaudS52Pstu8O707wH_H08i_yRfPd9kj60v4K_o_sODrYTdiMdp48gW9MNSjF874ZhQ==



Those are tanky as fuck because of no-IR and 43% evade chance from little bit gear and evasion, high armour, block chance.

So yeah, i can't see the reason to cry.

Regular life-stacking maradeur:
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAxthYY1BQjM_2SF8_VEnnUu8Oud3yL9SPGS4n7cT2892sqsQVPC1yqVnzxq582cAatz7-CmaekFV6uPJFqZX60qeErpPnY1FgNukdFBo4ple18hoyJKrjao9G7Dg64alugFYZhdDQOtiI8XgNTeNPfc9lLdJN2L6KrFlVxp48jHYB3P6PFm-Bb6QZBLMb-hRN8B8CcSXfogC0-YTZZU1uaVjbR36-p1Pfq8Wbg6yvhO907XrvYEsFLUCg704hYKLqMgl08RLhGNueuUOcDq0ppQ==

Funny that top 4 build: That is just a Marauder in disguise LOL.

You haven't proven anything, also that build is stacking life nodes like crazy. Probably he also uses Granites/Endurance/Enfeeble?

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Startkabels написал:

Agains white apes? If those hit me I can just drink a life flask after 20 hits?

Without buffs, armor is useless when it is needed most, that is a known fact.

BTW: 0 seconds, yeah right if you don't press the wrong button because then you're screwed. And in the case of Vaal: Only a granite is not even sufficient, so make that a couple of seconds.
Also it is just very annoying having to keep buffing your armor.

Yeah, armour mitigation doesn't work well against Vaal smash...Big surprise, ever thought of walking away? It's not like Vaal is a random encounter that you do 100 times a day, so you just could deal with him a bit more carefully. Attack him when he is spawning adds, dropping rocks, shooting ice. Safe moments to do so. And pressing the wrong button, lol. If I make playing mistakes, why shouldn't I die.

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You haven't proven anything, also that build is stacking life nodes like crazy. Probably he also uses Granites/Endurance/Enfeeble?

So you want a life based build that doesn't take armour (because it doesn't work), nor life/Granites/Endurance/Enfeeble? -.-
Have fun spreading your "facts" (might look that up) about armour, I'm done arguing with you because I get the impression I took the bait of a clever troll.

If you aren't: You dismiss every advice you got, why don't you just make your own build, try it and post a guide if it does work. If it doesn't you might be a bit more accesible to advices from others, or you just stop playing the game. Either way would be better than the pointless arguing here.

that's just extreme. It's the opposite of glass canon. All tank no dmg.

I don't mind using granites at all, but I do mind spamming enduring cry. I had a buld doing that and it's all work no fun. Imo, armour should be flat value all over the place. Of course, lower the % value gained by gear like 20000 armour is 50% reduction, 10000 is 25%. I am fine with that. 25% is enough against whites, not enough against boss but it's more than it is now. Want more? Endurance chargers and granites...

and wtf is all this talk about having high armour gear? You can have 1000 on every piece on average (which is a lot!), helmet, chest, gloves, boots, shield and belt! and you will have 6000 armour. Still need at least 5 good armor nodes to make that armour count for something in high lvl maps. And 6000 base armor is like insane amount to begin with.

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Lord_of_Error написал:

So you want a life based build that doesn't take armour (because it doesn't work), nor life/Granites/Endurance/Enfeeble? -.-
Have fun spreading your "facts" (might look that up) about armour, I'm done arguing with you because I get the impression I took the bait of a clever troll.

''i want an onslaught build with no life, no armor, no block, JUST CRIT!!!!! I want to press one button only, run no auras, never use flasks, curses, charges, traps or anything the game gives me to help me out, and get 1 shot on reflect because I dont resist my own damage type and using a swap is too much work for me!''

yeah, he should become best friends with this guy:-

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/465933/page/1

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JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal написал:

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Lord_of_Error написал:

So you want a life based build that doesn't take armour (because it doesn't work), nor life/Granites/Endurance/Enfeeble? -.-
Have fun spreading your "facts" (might look that up) about armour, I'm done arguing with you because I get the impression I took the bait of a clever troll.

''i want an onslaught build with no life, no armor, no block, JUST CRIT!!!!! I want to press one button only, run no auras, never use flasks, curses, charges, traps or anything the game gives me to help me out, and get 1 shot on reflect because I dont resist my own damage type and using a swap is too much work for me!''

yeah, he should become best friends with this guy:-

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/465933/page/1

I will give you my build AGAIN, because you know perfectly that the build I am planning focus on exactly those things. You are a troll and you should be right back on probation: