So melee still sucks, can we get a comment from GGG?

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Startkabels написал:

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JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal написал:

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Lord_of_Error написал:

So you want a life based build that doesn't take armour (because it doesn't work), nor life/Granites/Endurance/Enfeeble? -.-
Have fun spreading your "facts" (might look that up) about armour, I'm done arguing with you because I get the impression I took the bait of a clever troll.

''i want an onslaught build with no life, no armor, no block, JUST CRIT!!!!! I want to press one button only, run no auras, never use flasks, curses, charges, traps or anything the game gives me to help me out, and get 1 shot on reflect because I dont resist my own damage type and using a swap is too much work for me!''

yeah, he should become best friends with this guy:-

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/465933/page/1

I will give you my build AGAIN, because you know perfectly that the build I am planning focus on exactly those things. You are a troll and you should be right back on probation:

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQABLEFLQ6tFHUY2xrbG60hYCmlMgk4lj3iQKBDnEd-SO5KfUxgU99W-ljbYEtlTWegbml0QXTtdPF4rnrvfXWE2YTvh3aVZpkrm4OeuavFrK-3F7fTvYG-p8APxLjSTdN-1fjXy-4O7078xf66

so you focus on those things and yet you make fun of them like so?

You haven't proven anything, also that build is stacking life nodes like crazy. Probably he also uses Granites/Endurance/Enfeeble?

You are a very confusing man

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Lord_of_Error написал:

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Startkabels написал:

Agains white apes? If those hit me I can just drink a life flask after 20 hits?

Without buffs, armor is useless when it is needed most, that is a known fact.

BTW: 0 seconds, yeah right if you don't press the wrong button because then you're screwed. And in the case of Vaal: Only a granite is not even sufficient, so make that a couple of seconds.
Also it is just very annoying having to keep buffing your armor.

Yeah, armour mitigation doesn't work well against Vaal smash...Big surprise, ever thought of walking away? It's not like Vaal is a random encounter that you do 100 times a day, so you just could deal with him a bit more carefully. Attack him when he is spawning adds, dropping rocks, shooting ice. Safe moments to do so. And pressing the wrong button, lol. If I make playing mistakes, why shouldn't I die.

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You haven't proven anything, also that build is stacking life nodes like crazy. Probably he also uses Granites/Endurance/Enfeeble?

So you want a life based build that doesn't take armour (because it doesn't work), nor life/Granites/Endurance/Enfeeble? -.-
Have fun spreading your "facts" (might look that up) about armour, I'm done arguing with you because I get the impression I took the bait of a clever troll.

If you aren't: You dismiss every advice you got, why don't you just make your own build, try it and post a guide if it does work. If it doesn't you might be a bit more accesible to advices from others, or you just stop playing the game. Either way would be better than the pointless arguing here.

I am not trolling, what I am pointing out is that all the advise I get is the same:

-Get Granites
-Use Enfeeble
-Use Endurance Charges
-Get insane life

Ask yourself why: Because armor is useless and that is the point.

You don't have to tell me obvious things I already know, I am taking those advises into consideration when I play the game because I don't want to die of course, that does not mean I have to accept the fact that armor is useless against those bosses and certain defensive types have now become mandatory.

Now this guy JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal is trying to prove that armor is superior but only refers to that same RT/Life Marauder running Endurance Charges/Enfeeble/Granites over and over again.
Also funny: The only other build suggestions I got were CI/ES builds.

If the build is not one of the above, the default message I get is: "can't be done" "impossible" whatever.

And yet every now and then somebody posts that he is having almost the exact same build as I am planning and is soloing end game

Reference: Post at bottom of this page: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/458894/page/9

Do you understand what I am pointing out here? The actual concept of the game is building a unique character and build variety but yet this forum is full of people who only know RT/Life tank builds that use Granites/Enfeeble/Endurance charges because their armor is useless against big hits (and then some telling me "armor is fine" on top of that) or only know CI\ES builds.

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JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal написал:

so you focus on those things and yet you make fun of them like so?

You haven't proven anything, also that build is stacking life nodes like crazy. Probably he also uses Granites/Endurance/Enfeeble?

You are a very confusing man

Confusing because you cannot understand and read between the lines: I have to focus on them if I don't want to die as melee, at the same time I am making clear on this forum that it shouldn't be so that every life base melee should follow this same boring route that you are defensing so fanatically over and over again. It is wrong and is it is not inline with this game's concept.

Finally, what I also find very odd is that so many people act if I am saying something crazy, while all of this is generally known, confirmed by GGG and being improved too.

Reference:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/322594

Anyway I will continue building my character and will laungh at all the people here who lack originality and are all following those boring RT/Life or CI/ES builds.

Anyone know why GGG said that the old version was called "Path of Melee" back in 2011? I wasn't playing then, so I wonder what's changed.

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Startkabels написал:

Anyway I will continue building my character and will laungh at all the people here who lack originality and are all following those boring RT/Life or CI/ES builds.

you will rip before you reach merciless, bye!

and I am sure lord of error gave up on you a long time ago, something i should do too

I've seem so many melee characters that just slide through mobs like through butter that honestly if you char sucks it just means you suck and you can't play the game.

Melee has been severely buffed over the last couple weeks so just stop being a crybaby and learn to play or to grind good gear.

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Antistes написал:

I've seem so many melee characters that just slide through mobs like through butter that honestly if you char sucks it just means you suck and you can play the game.

Melee has been severely buffed over the last couple weeks so just stop being a crybaby and learn to play or to grind good gear.

+1

I feel ya, and its cant*

melee has been buffed through dmg nodes, monster dmg has been reduced, awesome bosses like kole / brutus have been nerfed to high hell, melee splash and multistrike are the best things ever to happen to melee ... but STILL you will ALWAYS have someone who will cry 'game sucks, this is broken, that is bs, reflect blows and is cheap, armor doesnt work' instead of growing a pair and saying 'I am doing something wrong, let me try and find a logical solution even if it involves hard work' *sigh*

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JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal написал:

you will rip before you reach merciless, bye!

and I am sure lord of error gave up on you a long time ago, something i should do too

What a joke, first you tell me that my build is not possible and now suddenly there are no problems lol! What a fail troll you are

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Antistes написал:

I've seem so many melee characters that just slide through mobs like through butter that honestly if you char sucks it just means you suck and you can play the game.

Melee has been severely buffed over the last couple weeks so just stop being a crybaby and learn to play or to grind good gear.

I know and that is exactly why I'm now planning a Duelist. Templar/Marauder are not very interesting to me at this moment.

People like Jah just don't seem to know or ignore these changes and keep hanging on to those same cookie cutter builds (Life/RT CI/ES) and tend to disqualify everything that might be not as superior but absolutely viable according to others.

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Startkabels написал:

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JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal написал:

you will rip before you reach merciless, bye!

and I am sure lord of error gave up on you a long time ago, something i should do too

What a joke, first you tell me that my build is not possible and now suddenly there are no problems lol! What a fail troll you are

what? learn what 'rip' means ... where did i state you wont have problems running that build? I said you will rip (die) before you reach merciless.

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Dracobane написал:

Anyone know why GGG said that the old version was called "Path of Melee" back in 2011? I wasn't playing then, so I wonder what's changed.

Once upon a time Marauders were the shiznat of prowess and then some,the passive tree favored them immensely.

They still hold the best position for melee on the tree in my opinion,tho I always have used dualist. (yes even when they were considered the suck)