Horrible lag in PoE only... offline mode

Exposing the server side code without damn good reason isnt worth it. With access to an offline mode its literally only a matter of a few hours of disassembly and memory walking till I can find every mathematical hole in thier program and exploit it. This is why they will never do this. The online mode is vastly more important to them as a business model than your own personal internet problems.

Sorry OP but I can't take you seriously. Stop comparing PoE to HoN, they both work very differently. Just read (and understand) the desync thread in the manifesto.

Synchronisation has already been improved, you rubberband faster and more often than before, looks crappy but it prevents death. Hopefully they will improve it even further.

P.S. If you're desyncing 'all the time' then you are doing it wrong. You can actively avoid desync if you know what's causing it. Instead of repeatedly bashing your head against the wall rather try to avoid it.

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Xavderion написал:

Sorry OP but I can't take you seriously. Stop comparing PoE to HoN, they both work very differently. Just read (and understand) the desync thread in the manifesto.

Synchronisation has already been improved, you rubberband faster and more often than before, looks crappy but it prevents death. Hopefully they will improve it even further.

P.S. If you're desyncing 'all the time' then you are doing it wrong. You can actively avoid desync if you know what's causing it. Instead of repeatedly bashing your head against the wall rather try to avoid it.

This is the only game I have ever seen where firstly, poor server/client syncing is such an issue for it playerbase ( and honestly, PoE is the first gaame where I experienced such significant issues and actually learnt what desync meant) and also, where its fanboys attribute the poor performance to a 'gameplay style' lol.

It is similar to Apple selling phones with badly designed antennas then telling users that:
'You're holding it wrong'

So, we're playing it wrong eh ? k.

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r11na написал:

The game runs at about 150fps.

Bullshit.
Your system is doubling every frame. This kind of fps is well beyond what the human eye/brain can perceive and recognise. You aren't an orangutan. More likely you have 75fps with each frame occurring twice.

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Herpy_Derpleson написал:

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r11na написал:

The game runs at about 150fps.

Bullshit.
Your system is doubling every frame. This kind of fps is well beyond what the human eye/brain can perceive and recognise. You aren't an orangutan. More likely you have 75fps with each frame occurring twice.

Huh?? My system tends to average PoE around 170fps but can get as high as 220fps. It will dip to low 70's in parties that have a lot going on. Many games have higher fps than what a person can see. Having a high fps tends to make the game smoother imo.

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Xavderion написал:

P.S. If you're desyncing 'all the time' then you are doing it wrong.

Rofl , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_vvI26NnwE#t=2m16s

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rahven32 написал:

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Herpy_Derpleson написал:

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r11na написал:

The game runs at about 150fps.

Bullshit.
Your system is doubling every frame. This kind of fps is well beyond what the human eye/brain can perceive and recognise. You aren't an orangutan. More likely you have 75fps with each frame occurring twice.

Huh?? My system tends to average PoE around 170fps but can get as high as 220fps. It will dip to low 70's in parties that have a lot going on. Many games have higher fps than what a person can see. Having a high fps tends to make the game smoother imo.

Your graphics card/monitor are doubling the fps. Every second frame is a clone of the previous, I swear.

But I'm really out of touch with modern IT stuff, my education was over 10 years ago. I could be mistaken. Enjoy all those frames you can't detect.

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r11na написал:

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Allow me to explain:
1. In Heroes of Newerth you issue a command, nothing happens until the command is sent to the server and back to your client as confirmed/denied. Desync is impossible here, delay (depending on your connection) happens instead. In this case your ping is roughly the delay between you issuing a command and it being approved. Diablo 3, SC2, Dota 2 etc. use this as well.
2. In Path of Exile you issue a command and it is instantly carried out by the client while it's being sent to the server for approval then being sent back to you to be confirmed or denied thus eliminating delay. Rubberbanding/desync is caused when the server denies a command or it becomes impossible. Assuming everything goes correctly then you will notice nothing and it will feel like you're playing with no delay.

They could "solve" desync by using the delay method but choose not to.

So instead of choosing methods that work, they chose their own method that doesn't work?
This makes the issue all the more ridiculous.
The fix is right there but they don't want to use the delay method that WORKS. At least set it as a damn option

Maybe other games use the delay method for a reason?
Even worse they don't even give the option, I have 30-40ms ping time to the server, using the delay method the game would run perfectly has 30-40ms delay is virtually undetectable.

Other ARPGs use this method for online as well. It's not unique to the game, it's more unique to the genre.

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Sorry OP but I can't take you seriously. Stop comparing PoE to HoN, they both work very differently. Just read (and understand) the desync thread in the manifesto.

Yes I read it, and basically, they are not using a method that works in HoN and virtually every other game that requires even more precision that PoE but their own method. Their own method that leads to complete fail even when playing with 30ms latency, where as Hon is perfectly playable with ~100ms latency. If I could have HoN latency in PoE it would be infinitely better than the desync every 10 seconds method in PoE.

I can't take guys who blindly defend this method simply because THEY don't have an issue wih it. Why don't GGG implement both methods and let the play choose.

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Herpy_Derpleson написал:

Bullshit.
Your system is doubling every frame. This kind of fps is well beyond what the human eye/brain can perceive and recognise. You aren't an orangutan. More likely you have 75fps with each frame occurring twice.

The game says its running at 150 fps... whether i can detect if it is running at 75fps or 150fps is irrelevant to the point i'm trying to make, which is that my system can easily handle running the game. Everything about the game runs smoothly... except the network code which sucks.

i literally have no idea what you are talking about... and i suspect you don't either.

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Jillian написал:

Other ARPGs use this method for online as well. It's not unique to the game, it's more unique to the genre.

Which games use this desync method, i would like to download and test those games and see if i get the same lag.

There wont ever be an offline mode. Ever ever.