Plea to devs to address the sexism

I never said there was not this option.
I never said that anyone forced her to play the game.

She asked, and GGG actually ( apparently ) answered that it was a real thing.
Now they didn't change it because they had more important priorities, sad for her.
But she had a point, even a small one.


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And it doesn't make GGG sexist assholes for not changing some things that you and a small minority of feminists find inconvenient or offensive.

That would be over reacting ( yes she did it ).
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
I pointed out the health and mana bars to my wife... she said, "...There's no nudity.. Those women look like the bound guardians of your life and spirit-- That's not sexual."

So, basically, if you don't have the victim mentality, there's no victimization here.

edit to clarify: viewer's bias plays a major role in interpreting what these images depict... I never even noticed the ladies until this post. My wife never noticed them and when I pointed out that they were sex slaves chained to my health and mana, she argued that they did not look like sex slaves.

So, look at them objectively, it's art. Your own interpretation of the art is YOUR OWN.
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Fruz написал:
Well in my country smoking is forbidden in public places.
But really, someone smoking in your direction right next to you, you may have many reason not wanting to move ( rain / friends / sun / crowd etc ... ) and he's te one disturbing ( yes, smoking is a disturbance. So since asking is simple and easy, yes there could be many reason to do so.

This is a basis of living in society and of what liberty is.
"Our liberty ends where the liberty of others begins."


No, that's the majority agreeing that they don't want smoking in public areas so forcing the minority to adapt. The majority of players in this game don't have problems with these things that you call sexist so you're forcing your will upon them.

Basically it's the opposite of your example. It would be the majority wanting no smoking in public while the minority forces them to allow smoking everywhere.

If GGG panders to every minority that's offended by something there will be no nudity, no violence, no swearing on the forums, no magic, no monsters, no weapons, basically no game.

There's many pieces of this game that someone will find offensive. Share your views, if GGG agrees they might make changes. If you get unreasonable then why would anyone listen to you?

There's no mention of how mara or even duelist are sexualized forms of males. How many men look like that? Mara is wearing a cloth over his dick otherwise he's a model male (same complaints people have with scion). If your arguments are for equality, I'm on board. If your arguments are for women being looked at as more valuable then go fuck yourself.
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Back to my example, how hard is that that forcing someone to breath your smoke is disturbing/offensive ( situation where the smokes arrives when the disturbed person is already there ).
So it's not the best fit here ( was just completing someone else's example ).

Noone is forcing anyone to anything.
She asked.
That'd be cool if they'd change it, I hope they will.
But : she had a valid point ( and GGG apparently admited it ).
That's all.

Reactions on this thread are the ridiculous things.

( I hope I'm gonna say it again right after this time T___T ).
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Последняя редакция: Fruz#6137. Время: 10 нояб. 2013 г., 00:24:54
"The half wit and the whore are dead?"

I have been reading trough the posts and the idea of being able to buy customizations for your user interface has some merits to it. First of all, the people who are offended by pixels which represent non existing characters can spend money to fix this utter issue and in that way contribute to the game. On the other hand, people who might like a more personal touch to the game can be happy as well.

Maybe change the color of the frame or add some different characters "slave girls" for classes perhaps?.

Win/Win if you ask me...

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Fruz написал:
Back to my example, how hard is that that forcing someone to breath your smoke is disturbing/offensive ( situation where the smokes arrives when the disturbed person is already there ).
So it's not the best fit here ( was just completing someone else's example ).


I genuinely don't think you understand the purpose of an analogy. I don't even mean this as an ad-hominem attack, I just genuinely have the impression that you don't understand analogies.

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situation where the smokes arrives when the disturbed person is already there


This quote demonstrates my point. GGG isn't forcing anyone to play this game, to compare this with someone getting uncomfortably close to you and in a sense smoking in your face is just asinine.

If there is one thing I can give this forum credit for it's the fact that most of the people on this forum are experts.. yes experts.. in posting stupid things. In that sense, this forum is a gold mine.
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Tenosrized написал:
"The half wit and the whore are dead?"

I have been reading trough the posts and the idea of being able to buy customizations for your user interface has some merits to it. First of all, the people who are offended by pixels which represent non existing characters can spend money to fix this utter issue and in that way contribute to the game. On the other hand, people who might like a more personal touch to the game can be happy as well.

Maybe change the color of the frame or add some different characters "slave girls" for classes perhaps?.

Win/Win if you ask me...



Without this thread I would never have noticed the two girls^^. I play PoE since closed beta and I never noticed them... mainly because in most situations the two globes are more important...

PoE is a game with a rather dark theme, it just belongs to the theme/story of the game. It is more or less a view on a society that is (except for the strange experiments part) quite similar to that of our own history.
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You can offend people with seemingly anything nowadays. If we took into consideration everything that ever just happened to offend someone we would literally not have any video games at all.

What if hypothetically there was someone who felt offended by the color green (for whatever reason) are we to just remove all skins and zones with the color green in them? Perhaps even take it to the extreme and have the game only run in black-white so nobody gets offended by any of the colors in this game... but black/white that would be outright racist!

Feminists piss me the fuck off, the likes of Rebecca Watson who get offended by someone offering them some fucking coffee. These are not even petty issues, these people are offended by literally anything, it doesn't even matter they will always find a reason to hate something and subsequently make convoluted and pointless arguments to defend their own hatred.

I don't want this shit to infect gaming, games are art, they are fiction, even my 13 year old brother understands that. Whatever happened to artistic freedom? Now, people are getting offended by shit that doesn't even matter, "oh look this artist drew a depiction of a female slave, he must obviously support 'da patriarchy' and is a woman-hater.

Or maybe he is just a freaking artist. See there are petty issues that Feminists often whine about to no end, but this is worse, this is actually a non-issue and I find it frustrating and aggravating that feminism manages to always find a way to complain about irrelevant shit that simply doesn't matter.

As if all of this was part of some grand conspiracy to oppress women, right a game where some of the most powerful bosses and mobs are female is actually just trying to oppress and offend women.

I don't think for a second that the world is more offensive to women than men, the only difference is that women choose to be offended more often than men.

Hell, look at all the men being tortured and killed in this game, it's very disproportionate, but nobody is complaining about that because we aren't fucking retarded, we understand this is a game and fiction, this game isn't politically correct and it freaking shouldn't be. Wraeclast isn't all rainbows and children's laughter.

Just read the reddit thread again, the person complaining in that thread called GGG "assholes", yes actually "assholes". That's how invasive feminism is, "I'm offended... you think that's a petty issue?... Well fuck you, you asshole, I SAID I WANT IT SO GIVE IT TO ME NOW!"


1) I love you. Being a female, I do not feel like my rights are in anyway limited in comparison to that of a man's. I feel like feminists RUIN a lot. For example, I SUPPORT stripping. Feminists would ban all strip clubs if they could because they "sexualize and degrade women". Which, isn't true. Those women ACTUALLY understand the power of the female body and their sexuality. Feminists are just mad because they don't understand it. I mean yeah sure, the feminists fight for my right to abortions but that is the only argument I agree with them on even though I view it as a bullshit RELIGIOUS topic.

2) Have any of you ever listened to the shit the RANGER says? She is a pretty hardcore feminist.

3) I feel like the girls identifying as girl gamers and complaining are a) GIRLS not WOMEN and b) recently jumped on the "Girl-gamers are so cool and sexy" bandwagon. SURE, the reddit mentions Zelda...who the hell didn't know about Zelda? I grew up playing video games and I distinctly remember there being like one or two other girls that also preferred video games to dolls. I don't even identify as a "girl-gamer" because I consider myself to be a gamer. WHY does there need to be a gender tagged to that? If they played video games all their life they wouldn't notice little details while playing a game...they'd actually be playing the game.

4) I didn't read the entire Reddit but did they mention Soul Calibur, Tekken, Street Fighter, and Mortal Kombat? If not fail to them. BIG TITTIES EVERYWHERE. (and I like it)

5) To all the men who are so offended by the nudity, girls chained, "sexism" grow a pair. You enjoy violence but can't enjoy some nudity? Your life must be full of pent up rage and sexual frustration. I bet you only have sex in missionary and have your eyes closed the whole time. And if your wife hates this game...NEWSFLASH she probably hates every game you play.

I typed this entire thing in nothing but a thong while my husband sits next to me playing PoE.
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monkeypavillion написал:
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High fives for you!

Nothing makes me angrier than people who think their gender is more important than their gaming. Like "I'm a girl first and also a gamer!" I'm a man but I'm not defined by that in gaming, nor is it a given.
It's totally cool if you've got a meat hole or a meat rod, it seriously does not bother me or change my opinion either way. I have played videogames forever. so do my mom and my sisters. They aren't "GAMERGURLS" they are just gamers. Seriously.

How your sexy parts work doesn't mean anything to me. Obviously, some games are so overtly sexist it's insane. (Seriously, metroid other M, eat a fucking bag of dicks) Some games just hyper-sexualize women. Personally, I generally find it offensive. Something about not-real tits, it just doesn't tickle me, and I can never stop thinking about the person who probably drew it, then drew it even more naked and totally had a wack at the ol' crotch. When the focus is sexual, that's all I can think about. but that doesn't mean it's sexist, just masturbatory.

And seriously, if boners everywhere was an option, I would fucking love that. Boners are funny and it would not offend me, at all. I don't really think it would offend my gender. It might offend some people who aren't super into boners.

I'm really segueing off in a wild direction here.

I really think monkeypavillion hits the nail on the head. If your rant starts with "As a WOMAN!!!" You're probably focused on the wrong thing. You should be offended as a gamer, not as a woman; don't segregate yourself. Seriously.
Other M didn't piss me off because it made women look weak. It pissed me off because it took a seriously hard-fucking core main character in a long running series and turned her from a hardass to a blubbering pile of sopping wet crotch for her.... old supervisor? It was fucking retarded. If it was a dude, it would STILL be retarded. I am all for equality. Prancing around a woman because she's a woman and you don't want to offend half the demographic like is being requested here is insane, and frankly we would not be hearing the same thing if it was dudes with 8 pack abs and huge boners obviously about to explode out of tiny thongs.

Now, those boobs on the UI? I never noticed them until this thread. If there is ANY other option, I don't think it should be plain, or neutral. It should be dudes with RAGING boners. Like propped up by them. Fighting them off as they threaten to reject the body. Straight Priapus statues. C'mon, GGG.
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Now, those boobs on the UI? I never noticed them until this thread. If there is ANY other option, I don't think it should be plain, or neutral. It should be dudes with RAGING boners. Like propped up by them. Fighting them off as they threaten to reject the body. Straight Priapus statues. C'mon, GGG.


I don't think I could play the game anymore because I'd be LOLing too hard. But it wwould be EPIC.

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