Is DESYNC - really - that much of a problem? Really?

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Pyrokar написал:

That's right. Screw those Hc guys. They are only a minority.

The greatness intensifies.

Why so negative? I don't' play HC, should I shut up and never make post not to offend my HC brethren?

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Thorien_Kell написал:

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Pyrokar написал:

That's right. Screw those Hc guys. They are only a minority.

The greatness intensifies.

Why so negative? I don't' play HC, should I shut up and never make post not to offend my HC brethren?

I am not negative i just rephrased what you said both in your op and in your response to my post. So i guess yours is the negative one.

aRE YOU sane? i do not think so!!! Your claims are based on nothing but you act like it is ultimate truth . Ofcourse Desync IS huge problem . Mostly for HC characters [well there is no real hc but they get kicked out of league just because of desync death]
You claim that better pc and internet fix it??? That is the hugest bullshit you could say because this problem is not lag related It is true programming flaw with roots in whole game code.
It is why things like Cyclone+Multistrike are unplayable BUT Infernal blow do not desync 5% of that.

After getting a /oos macro, no, not at all.

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Thorien_Kell написал:

As I've said, I don't consider it to be big issue, and i'm sure that I'm not the only one. Maybe I was lucky in combination of provider /connection /gateway distance etc, who knows.

So because you don't have desync issues then everyone complaining is just making a big deal out of nothing? It like saying "I'm not hungry so is world hunger really that big of a problem." Sorry this just reeks of a troll thread. Just because it doesn't happen to you doesn't mean its not a huge issue for a large portion of the player base. But then again I'm sure half the steam players quit because they just got board with the game.

I have a good computer and (mostly) reliable ISP - I hardly ever desync, and when I do, it's usually minor and corrects itself in a matter of seconds. I play exclusively in Hardcore leagues (except to get the challenges done in the standard leagues). I don't use a /oos macro, nor do I alt-f4 (I just smash potions and try to portal out if I need to).

The people who talk on forums are only 3% of the total active players, and frankly, there is a far, far smaller pool of people who actively complain about desync on the forums (or they prescribe all their problems to desync, when in reality they are lagging or something else is going on).

This isn't to say that desync isn't real, or that it doesn't affect some more than others, it's just my take on the matter. GGG does continue to make improvements, they are just small ones, when the people that are complaining want some kind of cure-all miracle that is unrealistic (to fix many of the issues, GGG would have to completely change how combat works, which they actively oppose doing).

Sources:
Forum = 3% of active players:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/667888

Desync discussion: (interview between Athene and Chris Wilson)
http://www.twitch.tv/athenelive/b/486870540?t=128m50s (they start discussing desync at 2h 18m)

[I would link the Desync Developer Manifesto here, but it's not available to view anymore]

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CAKE написал:

aRE YOU sane? i do not think so!!! Your claims are based on nothing but you act like it is ultimate truth . Ofcourse Desync IS huge problem . Mostly for HC characters [well there is no real hc but they get kicked out of league just because of desync death]
You claim that better pc and internet fix it??? That is the hugest bullshit you could say because this problem is not lag related It is true programming flaw with roots in whole game code.
It is why things like Cyclone+Multistrike are unplayable BUT Infernal blow do not desync 5% of that.

First, relax. Second, yes, for me desync is not that much of a problem, and yes, I don't play hardcore.

Now what?

not for me its not, but other people are not me.

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Midnitecloud написал:

So because you don't have desync issues then everyone complaining is just making a big deal out of nothing?

Some might ;) Whining is a old and honorable tradition on ARPG forums.

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It like saying "I'm not hungry so is world hunger really that big of a problem." Sorry this just reeks of a troll thread. Just because it doesn't happen to you doesn't mean its not a huge issue for a large portion of the player base. But then again I'm sure half the steam players quit because they just got board with the game.

I never said problem doesn't exist. only that is probably much less pronounced that one might get an idea by reading forums.

Desync is the reason this game has such a low population compared to the competition. This game is otherwise a masterpiece.