Pohx: POE is now like D3, leveling is too easy, map system the same, most uniques sucks....

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Perq написал:

Gotta admit I it is good giggle to see people lose their shit over Essence league, where it is obvious it is gonna be Talisman 2.0 level of useless. Lol.


I totally expect it to be Talisman 2.0, which is why I am not really hyped about it.
As usual the main incentive in playing the league will be league only uniques and challenges/fresh economy, and not the league itself (#wishperanduswasback).
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I think people in PoE are awesome actually. At least compared to your "average game community".
His comparison to D3 is Bullshit and anyone who played D3 for quite some time knows that.
PoE couldnt get that dull and stupid even if the devs tried.

Yeah, Pohx has some points about things that arent okay in the game and its getting easier but like every beta-player he now has a freakin nostalgia-problem. "Back in the days everything was better..."
No it wasnt and you know that. You were complaining about stuff back then and you are complaining now.
If you cant stop crying then do yourself a favor and quit.
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Pyrollusion написал:
His comparison to D3 is Bullshit and anyone who played D3 for quite some time knows that.
PoE couldnt get that dull and stupid even if the devs tried.

Yeah, Pohx has some points about things that arent okay in the game and its getting easier but like every beta-player he now has a freakin nostalgia-problem. "Back in the days everything was better..."
No it wasnt and you know that. You were complaining about stuff back then and you are complaining now.
If you cant stop crying then do yourself a favor and quit.

There is nothing wrong with saying "things were better in the past" and this is also my oppinion of PoE.
I still play and enjoy it but not as much as i used to.

And yes PoE becomes more casual and easier, thats good for newer players, and iam pretty sure that was GGGs intention with all those changes.

But the sentense "Poe is now like D3",... just wow,... you must be super bad at atleast one of those games to say something that stupid!
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It's not moronic, it would be moronic if someone was playing SC and cried that the game was too easy. The problem is HC has become extremely easy as well and for players looking for a challenging outlet like phox they are not finding it.

GGG has the capability to cater to both parties by making HC leagues much harder while keeping SC/standard in line with what they have been doing.

People looking for a challenge can get it in HC, people who want to play for fun/casually can find it in SC. And it was that was back in say invasion/ambush dual leagues or beyond etc... Prophecy ads absolutely ZERO challenge for HC players over standard HC.


This is non-sense. The game on HC is VERY VERY HARD. In the current league there is not a SINGLE PRO/STREAMER who did at least once an UBER ATZIRI with meele or bow build. I challenge you PROs show us that you can do it. Or I claim you have no right to tell the community that HC game is too easy since it's not true!
MY CHALLENGES ARE DONE ON HC, IT'S NOT SC GUYS!
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Mannoth написал:
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Perq написал:

Gotta admit I it is good giggle to see people lose their shit over Essence league, where it is obvious it is gonna be Talisman 2.0 level of useless. Lol.

I totally expect it to be Talisman 2.0, which is why I am not really hyped about it.
As usual the main incentive in playing the league will be league only uniques and challenges/fresh economy, and not the league itself (#wishperanduswasback).

I do expect the items themselves to be better than in talisman, however there's no Rigwald in Essence so it loses on the coolness factor.
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Pyrollusion написал:
His comparison to D3 is Bullshit and anyone who played D3 for quite some time knows that.
PoE couldnt get that dull and stupid even if the devs tried.

Yeah, Pohx has some points about things that arent okay in the game and its getting easier but like every beta-player he now has a freakin nostalgia-problem. "Back in the days everything was better..."
No it wasnt and you know that. You were complaining about stuff back then and you are complaining now.
If you cant stop crying then do yourself a favor and quit.


Eh...

D3, new seasons, maybe new areas, monsters, etc.

POE, new season gimmick, areas, monsters.
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raics написал:
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Mannoth написал:
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Perq написал:

Gotta admit I it is good giggle to see people lose their shit over Essence league, where it is obvious it is gonna be Talisman 2.0 level of useless. Lol.

I totally expect it to be Talisman 2.0, which is why I am not really hyped about it.
As usual the main incentive in playing the league will be league only uniques and challenges/fresh economy, and not the league itself (#wishperanduswasback).

I do expect the items themselves to be better than in talisman, however there's no Rigwald in Essence so it loses on the coolness factor.


No big difference here - only one being that you can somewhat craft those items you get from Essence spamming. But I don't expect much of it, honestly.

Seems that GGG is trying to milk the Ambush league idea being nice - Talisman, Perandus, now Essence. While I'm very happy about that (because chests with loot and monsters are awesome), they don't seem to know how to balance rewards, so they aren't game-breaking, but not lack-luster. Not that I know how to do it. :V

Talismans were worthless, sadly. : (

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Pyrollusion написал:
His comparison to D3 is Bullshit and anyone who played D3 for quite some time knows that.
PoE couldnt get that dull and stupid even if the devs tried.

Yeah, Pohx has some points about things that arent okay in the game and its getting easier but like every beta-player he now has a freakin nostalgia-problem. "Back in the days everything was better..."
No it wasnt and you know that. You were complaining about stuff back then and you are complaining now.
If you cant stop crying then do yourself a favor and quit.

There is nothing wrong with saying "things were better in the past" and this is also my oppinion of PoE.
I still play and enjoy it but not as much as i used to.

And yes PoE becomes more casual and easier, thats good for newer players, and iam pretty sure that was GGGs intention with all those changes.

But the sentense "Poe is now like D3",... just wow,... you must be super bad at atleast one of those games to say something that stupid!


One thing that always gets me, is that people keep on forgetting that not only game gets easier, but they also get better at the game. Some people seem not to realize that 90% of PoE players still struggle with the basics, let alone creating their own builds from scratch. Yes, there are builds guides to Babies First Bladefall Mine Uber Atziri Farmer, but if you look up how many people actually do these, it still isn't very high.
Still, I'd agree that PoE is swinging dangerously into too-casual areas.

It is still VERY far from it, but some new items/Ascendancies seem to be made a food for meta-maniacs on purpose... :S
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I play POE 95% self found. On occasion, I'll trade (only in standard, not in HC mostly). When Im playing POE as a main game, I play 2-3 hours a night.

With that said, I do find HC hard and difficult enough. I think my highest character made it to like...62 or something. And its not that I suck, its that again, I am self found. I don't trade much in the game. Im not a tycoon like some of you. I dont have an entourage of people feeding me gear just because I stream. I play and earn everything I have.

So from my standpoint, the difficulty is definitely there.

If you guys think the game is so hard, do not trade. Im sure you'll still get further than me, but I doubt you'll have consistent level 90 HC characters.

I have watched streamers/youtubers for years, I have also played several MMOs and a lot of other games in my life, dating all the way back to the 80s.

A few points from me:
- No matter what, sooner or later you will get tired of a game
- Streamers play for a living, its more a job for them then a game
- Streamers need to play the games that are popular, number of watchers are their income
- Pohx has been playing PoE for years right? No wonder he feel joy finally leaving, I have no idea how comeone can keep it going so long with main focus on just one game, its for me a mystery
- PoE is FAR FAR FAR different from D3, its FAR more complex and the two games have many differences
- When someone (anyone) is playing the most OP FOTM builds there is, and at the same time do not play the hardest map-mods etc, you lose the right to say anything about easy game or whine about too little end-game content and too noob-friendly
- When the joy for a game starts to leave, you admit (and also wants to find) flaws, this is how the human pshyche works, you need to find negative things to be able to let go (same with other things in life also)
- Streamers talking about a game has become too casual etc, is usually just an excuse when they are tired of a game, or need to find a better way of income
- To leave PoE now, right before Atlas of Worlds is released and a new season starts, just shows that he is tired of PoE
- A game company cannot make a game that have a end-game content that is challenging for the 'no-lifers'/ 24/7 people, because almost noone else would play it = financial suicide
- Any game will be repetitive if you play it enough, even with random generated stuff, that is just how it is
- No game company can make a game that gives the 'no-lifers'/ 24/7 people rushing to 'end game', new fresh challenging content all the time. Or if they did it would cost A LOT of money each month, FAR more then premium MMO subs, and it would be also a financial suicide
- PoE is a FREE 2 Play game, if you want it to get better with more content, use more money on it! GGG is a company, they need to make money, or they shut down, and its game over. They cannot give us a lot of new content all the time without a massive steady income.

Yes, my points are no shockers, and nothing new, but many people/sheep/kids/stream-watchers get so caught up in their own little world, that they lose touch with reality and forget about the simple logics of gaming (and life for that matter).

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