is The Shaper a fair fight? discussion

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Shagsbeard написал:

They added this level of difficulty for the .05% of the players who will beat what ever content they produce. The rest of us should ignore it.

Yes please keep thinking like that so i can make more exalts farming endgame.

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Sogolon написал:

blade vortex
ES
vaal discipline

3 broken things into 1!

Actually these only make up like 10%.

The other 90% is Vinktar's.

The fight was much easier than I expected. Most of the one shot attacks are pretty obvious. And also remember that the shaper map has no map mods. IMO it's even easier than many of my guardian maps.

Mathil almost dodged the bullet hell. almost.

and now I understand the comment earlier in this thread, about being lasered through the bubble. what a *** move. and he always does that thing.

the more videos I see of this fight, it just convinces me how impossible it would be for Hardcore.
but even for SC, playing great only to get 1-shot at the end, is just... disgusting.

First attempt with this Slayer today,as you can see ,there is much space for gear improvement. The fight is GREAT,its pure skill thing,nothing RNG. Got him to third phase and failed at mechanics i didn't know about.

Overall the fight is fair,i believe ill be able to bring him down in the 2-nd attempt.
There is absolutely nothing unfair about this fight,except the OP BV pathfinder that can ignore all mechanics. Also i don't get oneshoted by anything (you can move through the laser before you die,don't say its 1-shot),the only thing that one-shots you is the teleport slam.

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johnKeys написал:

Mathil almost dodged the bullet hell. almost.

and now I understand the comment earlier in this thread, about being lasered through the bubble. what a *** move. and he always does that thing.

the more videos I see of this fight, it just convinces me how impossible it would be for Hardcore.
but even for SC, playing great only to get 1-shot at the end, is just... disgusting.

Zizaran and Blue just got first Shaper kill on Hardcore, so it is definitely possible. If Ziz the flaskless can do it, we all can XD

Fight is easy since GGG have not hotfixed bv yet. Bladefall traps also once again need a nerf.

So many ppl talk crap about practice and learning the mechanics. Unfortunately for hc ppl its lvling 0-90+ to get 1 attempt. If i was a sc player, i would be ok with the current state of shaper, but as hc player, all this new cool content is just another stuff to avoid or go play std for days/weeks to train enough to play the content the league u enjoy...no thanks. Feels bad to admit it, but theres absolutely no reason to play hc in this league and I regret not chosing sc this time.

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Docbp87 написал:

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johnKeys написал:

Mathil almost dodged the bullet hell. almost.

and now I understand the comment earlier in this thread, about being lasered through the bubble. what a *** move. and he always does that thing.

the more videos I see of this fight, it just convinces me how impossible it would be for Hardcore.
but even for SC, playing great only to get 1-shot at the end, is just... disgusting.

Zizaran and Blue just got first Shaper kill on Hardcore, so it is definitely possible. If Ziz the flaskless can do it, we all can XD

Melee totems + triple curse full aura support leading all the vortex balls away from him?

Not dissing him to be honest, it's a glorious fight to see, but if that's the standard for this fight.

Well i think we can all conclude that melee got buffed big time this patch.

Peace,

-Boem-

Got him on my 4-th attempt with this slayer,third phase balls are the worst,placing them so you won't get screwed during the zana shield phase is key.

As far as RNG goes,its about a ball spawning on your head and screw your placement,this is the biggest problem,otherwise the fight is pure dodge and focus.